2014 World Championship - Discussion

[richo]

Selby has one time winner written all over him though...

[jw147]

Agreed. For a player who prides his self on class, it was classless. No way would Ronnie have rubbed it in an opponents face like that.

Hope that premature celebration comes back to haunt him, it would be devestating to see selby celebrating if he won, hes up there with robertson in the celebration category, hope ron comes out tonight and blows him off the table

[daffie]

I agree with your view, more or less.
The only point I disagree with is comparison of Mark Selby and John Higgins, a real disgrace to the latter in my belief. Slowing down the tempo or keeping the balls tight has never been John Higgins' way of dealing with the likes of Ronnie O'Sullivan, because he himself never "preferred" to have cagey frames.

You see I really do not see it that way. I always pride myself on trying to view both sides of any story. But I really can not see Selby as unsportsmanlike or slowing things down. In my view he plays very tough match play snooker (it's a stupid description but gotta go with it anyway), that is...he goes for his shots (and yes he really does), but at the same time plays the percentage game. If he sees a pot and can play on the next color then he absolutely will. But if the outcome might be 50/50 then he will play the shot in such a way as to try and limit the damage should he miss the pot. I think that is very sensible and very smart play. I can see why others see this as boring or even negative play. But really in my view it is very tough and smart snooker.

Edit : and then there's the tactical / safety play...when did we reach the point where playing tactical snooker or safeties is deemed as boring/slow/annoying and so forth? Ok the game has changed over the years, and has become much faster overall, but still it is a thinking man's game isn't it. If you go all out for each and every shot without any regard for the outcome should you miss the pot, that's just not very smart snooker in my opinion.

Again...the way I see the game/player.

[vdking114]

I agree with your view, more or less.
The only point I disagree with is comparison of Mark Selby and John Higgins, a real disgrace to the latter in my belief. Slowing down the tempo or keeping the balls tight has never been John Higgins' way of dealing with the likes of Ronnie O'Sullivan, because he himself never "preferred" to have cagey frames.

There is a reason why O'sullivan has called Selby the Torturer and Higgins one of the snooker players he's ever come up against.

[Neil Taperell]

Yeah I hear ya...when Ronnie is playing the level in here plummets to well below zero. Still...I participate because there is actually some ok stuff going on at times. The rest I can pretty much laugh away... Those ROS woshippers have no clue anyway.

Explain what you mean........that's if you can get your head out of Selby's backside . You are just as biased as the so called 'Ronnie Worshippers' .

Lets just try to watch a decent final session of snooker without having to read your blinkered views on snooker .

[montoya10]

Well this will probably turn out in a he said - she said kind of back&forth, but I will chance it anyway

Again you have no clue whatsoever what the 'general public' wants out of snooker. Snooker is about many things, the quick-fire potting by the likes of Ros and Trump (and many others), the highly tactical stuff like Mark Selby and John Higgins play, the absolute tension&drama at times even when players miss shots you and I probably wouldn't miss in the club...it's all part of the game we call snooker.

It has always been like that...never has it been only one of the above. Yes the fancy boys will get the attention in the papers (A. Higgins, J. White, Ros...) and from the public that have a very one-dimensional view of snooker...if they have any affinity with the game at all instead of with just&only their star player.

So there you have it...my ridiculous view on snooker

I agree with your view, more or less.
The only point I disagree with is comparison of Mark Selby and John Higgins, a real disgrace to the latter in my belief. Slowing down the tempo or keeping the balls tight has never been John Higgins' way of dealing with the likes of Ronnie O'Sullivan, because he himself never "preferred" to have cagey frames.

[richo]

Dramatic session, set up for tonight perfectly. All about if Rinnie can hit a bit of form and break the 30 minute frames.

Is it just me that thinks Selbys 'celebration' after winning that last frame is a bit ungracious? Weird thing to do when only 1 frame up with possible 12 to play.

Agreed. For a player who prides his self on class, it was classless. No way would Ronnie have rubbed it in an opponents face like that.

[daffie]

LOL. I guess a Selby vs Ronnie match was always going to be heated.

Yup. Btw did you miss the afternoon session or did you watch but stayed away from this place? (smart man)

[cyberheater]

Ronnie is playing

LOL. I guess a Selby vs Ronnie match was always going to be heated.

[daffie]

What the hell happened in this thread?

Ronnie is playing

[montoya10]

Well, I, for one, will be hoping for the minimum amount of frames possible. Can't be helped, I'm going to get up early tomorrow, and I have stuff to do.

I find it funny when "real snooker fans" babble about enjoying the game but get absolutely mental when BBC decides to cut the coverage short. It's hilarious every time.

Burn!

[daffie]

Yes it's exciting for us snooker fans, and hopefully Ronnie makes a come-back and wins in fine style. The slow stuff doesn't cut it with the general public anymore.... Sad, but true.

Well this will probably turn out in a he said - she said kind of back&forth, but I will chance it anyway

Again you have no clue whatsoever what the 'general public' wants out of snooker. Snooker is about many things, the quick-fire potting by the likes of Ros and Trump (and many others), the highly tactical stuff like Mark Selby and John Higgins play, the absolute tension&drama at times even when players miss shots you and I probably wouldn't miss in the club...it's all part of the game we call snooker.

It has always been like that...never has it been only one of the above. Yes the fancy boys will get the attention in the papers (A. Higgins, J. White, Ros...) and from the public that have a very one-dimensional view of snooker...if they have any affinity with the game at all instead of with just&only their star player.

So there you have it...my ridiculous view on snooker

[cyberheater]

What the hell happened in this thread?

[zombieman]

I find it funny when "real snooker fans" babble about enjoying the game but get absolutely mental when BBC decides to cut the coverage short. It's hilarious every time.

[snookerpoolman]

All that has absolutely zero to do with the enjoyment real snooker fans get out of a match like this. Ronnie worshippers and snooker have absolutely nothing in common with each other.

We will do just fine with a match like this...awesome stuff to watch!

Yes it's exciting for us snooker fans, and hopefully Ronnie makes a come-back and wins in fine style. The slow stuff doesn't cut it with the general public anymore.... Sad, but true.