2014 World Championship - Discussion

[scottley]

Over time of what though, his career, the tournament, a frame, a match? I don't believe this saying, its like its a given that everyone has a limited amount of luck in themselves and that it always evens itself out eventually. Luck is exactly what it is, it comes in two forms, good and bad and I've yet to witness any player have more luck than Selby on the current tour.

I've never really noticed any one player having more good or bad luck than others, take it when it comes your way i reckon.

[rich45]

I probably think Selby is lucky because I dislike him, and therefore I notice every time he has the run of the ball.

Similarly, I always seem to hit red lights when I am running late for work. Of course, the ratio of hitting red/green traffic lights is doubtless the same as other days, but it never seems like that. Just more conciously aware of them.

[daffie]

People who were moaning about Carter yesterday really fail to understand the bad run of the ball he gets and how Selby seems to get away with things and doesn't experience much in the way of bad run himself.

I sincerely believe that one can influence (getting/keep getting) back luck by not being of and keeping a positive frame of mind. Of course that is very hard to do, especially when you are having a hard time. But still...the ones (like Selby) who manage it well will ultimately turn their own bad luck around. Keep being negative and your bad run will continue. Only you can influence it.

It really is as simple as that.

[rich45]

To be fair, that was a bit unlucky for Selby to leave a free ball.

[armstm]

if you watch ronnie's mannerisms when he plays a bad shot, he looks quizzical and then when he sits down he looks up at the ceiling and around with a slightly thoughful look. i think this is his way of saying well yes i missed a shot but this happens and it's not the end of the world. it's his way of putting the miss in perspective. he may have got this routine from steve peters. he rarely looks annoyed.

[Dave Walton]

Selby always has been an extremely lucky player, as is Judd Trump

[daffie]

So Ali closes out this session only 9-7 behind, that's not bad (no pun intended). Hopefully Selby can pick up things in their last session and come through in the end.

Now on to the McManus vs Doherty match, which I'm really looking forward to.

Btw @BBC...please bring back our Hazel!

[scottley]

Selby always has been an extremely lucky player, as is Judd Trump

Load of rubbish, people just notice it more about Selby because they don't like him.

[SnookerFan]

Load of rubbish, people just notice it more about Selby because they don't like him.

I've always thought Judd looks like a more lucky player, but it's in part influenced by his style of play. For example, he hits the balls so hard if he misses in one pockets, it increases the chances of flukes because there's so much momentum left the ball. That 'luck' is more to do with the way he plays than him being flukier than anybody else.

You often find people who call Selby lucky are Ronnie O'Sullivan fans. Or at least fans of attacking play, rather than Selby's strategic thought out approach.

[P.Smith]

I wish people would stop this debate over luck. No one player is more lucky than the other, it's just random. Certain players like Selby and Trump seem to have had some sort of 'luck' stigma attached to them on this forum, but that's only because they have a lot of haters who don't like it when they do well and notice the run they get more.

[Maxsys]

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People who seem more lucky than others are generally better than others at what they do.

[itsnoteasy]

Osullivan! He is just ridiculously good. Looks to be in the mood from the get go.

[Dr_Doctor]

Great start from O'Sullivan. Hope Perry can do the same.

[Dave Walton]

Selby always has been an extremely lucky player, as is Judd Trump

Load of rubbish, people just notice it more about Selby because they don't like him.

No, I notice his luck because gets so much of it!

[scottley]

The more they practice the luckier they get.