2014 World Championship - Discussion

[Valiullin]

He may never become world champion at this rate. Weird that he seems to be jinxed in his adoptive hometown.

He gets no advantage from that unfortunately. There's no home advantage for a chinese man in occident. Listen to the BBC commentators and the crowd when Wasley won... they definitely didn't want Ding to win.

[Billy]

Listen to the BBC commentators and the crowd when Wasley won... they definitely didn't want Ding to win.

Absolute nonsense. Griffiths was clearly rooting for Ding.

As for the crowd's reaction, that was nothing more than an appreciation at seeing the underdog win.

[peterpackage]

Disagreed. As we've already seen here in the first few days of the 1st Round, the unexpected can happen at any time.

in theory yes but most upsets happen in the first round because the qualifiers have just had up to 4 matches to get through and are nicely warmed up and the seed is playing his first match 'cold'

[Valiullin]

Absolute nonsense. Griffiths was clearly rooting for Ding.

Oh I absolutely disagree. All decider long it was "poor shot but he's got away with that" or "he's been lucky there" to describe Ding's loose shots and "he's been a little bit fortunate" for Wasley. Just this kind of small talking points that indicate a sort of bias, even little. But they're professionals heh, they don't show it. No such thing as rooting. As for the crowd on the other hand... Well can't blame them for supporting the local guy, this just strenghthen my opinion that the Wold Championship should travel a little bit

[Odrl]

Well, you can't ask for a better evening of snooker than that. :smile:

First of all, congratulations to Michael White for coming back from 8-4 down to force a decider. I don't think I've ever seen anyone miss so many blacks off the spot and other sitters, and still be competitive. Selby didn't really give him a chance in the decider though, he played a very strong frame. He certainly didn't waste his good form in the 1st round this time, so hopefully we see some of it later in the tournament. Carter was quite good in the 1st round, so it won't be easy getting past him.

The conclusion of Ding's match was great as well. Excellent break from Wasley in the penultimate frame to put the pressure on, and for a while it was looking like he would win the decider in one visit as well. He never looked like he was going to miss, until he took a moment to think about a shot and the pressure caught up with him. Crazy pot from Ding along the cushion, with an excellent black to follow, but nerves got to him as well. Considering the standard he set for situations like this this season, it was quite poor to break down the first time, and quite poor to not make anything from that red over the pocket as well. His defeat leaves a big hole in the top half now, especially since he was arguably in the weakest quarter of the draw. But then again, maybe his best stuff this season was behind him anyway. :wink:

On another note, Ding made a couple of excellent attempts to get the snooker behind the black towards the end, and when that pink was going towards the middle pocket on his last shot, someone in the audience shouted "get in". What a nasty thing to shout out loud when someone is about to lose the match after a great effort like that. Why would you wish that on him, Wasley fan or not...

[blowfish]

Not the first time the crowd has reacted like that unfortunately in the Ding match. An instance happened on the 16th frame as well if memory serves me right, when Wasley/crowd was urging a fluked pink on the corner, Ding was already getting up thinking to play his next shot and someone in the crowd just shouted "sit back down". That was uncalled for I thought.

But glad to see the classy congratulations in the end after that tough loss.

[Billy]

Not the first time the crowd has reacted like that unfortunately in the Ding match. An instance happened on the 16th frame as well if memory serves me right, when Wasley/crowd was urging a fluked pink on the corner, Ding was already getting up thinking to play his next shot and someone in the crowd just shouted "sit back down". That was uncalled for I thought.

But glad to see the classy congratulations in the end after that tough loss.

I'm just sensing any of this

The UK crowd have warmed to Ding more than any other overseas player I can think of in recent years.

As I've already said, what we witnessed tonight was nothing more than encouragement and appreciation for the underdog.

[Dr_Doctor]

Not the first time the crowd has reacted like that unfortunately in the Ding match. An instance happened on the 16th frame as well if memory serves me right, when Wasley/crowd was urging a fluked pink on the corner, Ding was already getting up thinking to play his next shot and someone in the crowd just shouted "sit back down". That was uncalled for I thought.

This is one of the reasons why I've become a bit disillusioned with British culture. Just saying.

[Billy]

Oh I absolutely disagree. All decider long it was "poor shot but he's got away with that" or "he's been lucky there" to describe Ding's loose shots and "he's been a little bit fortunate" for Wasley. Just this kind of small talking points that indicate a sort of bias, even little. But they're professionals heh, they don't show it. No such thing as rooting. As for the crowd on the other hand... Well can't blame them for supporting the local guy, this just strenghthen my opinion that the Wold Championship should travel a little bit

So you didn't hear the excitement and congratulatory tone in both commentators' voices when Ding was laying those snookers, or how cruel they said the game was when Walsley fluked the last red?

[Billy]

This is one of the reasons why I've become a bit disillusioned with British culture.

You mean it's taken you this long?? I gave up on it about 17 years ago.

Having said that, I still fail to see where this notion that Ding is disliked is coming from. I see the exact opposite.

[motorhead]

So you didn't hear the excitement and congratulatory tone in both commentators' voices when Ding was laying those snookers, or how cruel they said the game was when Walsley fluked the last red?

this.


about Selby's hilarious 'accident', can someone tell me why the free ball wasn't called? the ball he was supposed to hit was definitely not on on both sides if I recall correctly.

[the montrealer]

HI Walsley fluked the last red but had to clear up to the Blue Ball to win it.
everybody FLUKES balls thats part of the game.

Walsley has nevers of steel and was never up in the match great player.

Would any one know who coaches Walsley maybe someone knows

[simon dent]

If a player tries to pot a ball in the corner pocket, misses and the red then cannons off three other reds before dropping in the centre bag; that's not luck. It just so happens that the red hit the other reds in such a way that it found its way into the centre pocket. It's nothing more than a series of events that resulted in something we decide to call luck.[/QUOTE]

Interesting philosophy, are you implying that such a shot can be preempted and relies on skill? Luck seems to be an easier explanation!

[Inoffthered]

Walsley has nevers of steel and was never up in the match great player.

Would any one know who coaches Walsley maybe someone knows

They were talking about this earlier.. and mentioned Terry Griffiths?

[the montrealer]

If a player tries to pot a ball in the corner pocket, misses and the red then cannons off three other reds before dropping in the centre bag; that's not luck. It just so happens that the red hit the other reds in such a way that it found its way into the centre pocket. It's nothing more than a series of events that resulted in something we decide to call luck.

Interesting philosophy, are you implying that such a shot can be preempted and relies on skill? Luck seems to be an easier


HI In Snooker there is 85 per cent skill and 15 per cent LUCK Sometimes one player has all the luck and the other player has bad LUCK






explanation![/QUOTE]