2014 World Championship - Discussion

[luke-h]

There was a red selby played that he potted and there was an available pink into the right centre it was an easy ish pot but once again turned down in favour of a snooker, another example was the reds close to the corner black pocket the only way he could get the white safe was to play of the side rail with enough pace to go in off after he deliberated for an age he played the shot then acted like he had made the biggest mistake of his life...the bloke is an affront to snooker full stop.

[gem]

There was a red selby played that he potted and there was an available pink into the right centre it was an easy ish pot but once again turned down in favour of a snooker, another example was the reds close to the corner black pocket the only way he could get the white safe was to play of the side rail with enough pace to go in off after he deliberated for an age he played the shot then acted like he had made the biggest mistake of his life...the bloke is an affront to snooker full stop.

I thought the final was great viewing and Selby played plenty of aggressive shots. Hardly played a wrong shot though which seemed to annoy most people on here. This takes a huge amount of dicipline and he was able to make Ronnie look ordinary.

[daffie]

I thought the final was great viewing and Selby played plenty of aggressive shots. Hardly played a wrong shot though which seemed to annoy most people on here. This takes a huge amount of dicipline and he was able to make Ronnie look ordinary.

Completely agree. Selby in the end the deserved winner. Ros played well, but couldn't handle the pressure Mark kept piling on and made too many mistakes. Ros said it himself...Selby is the rightful winner in the end. He was very gracious in defeat...well done to Ros.

I'm still reeling over the Final (and 2nd Semi as well)...such drama and tension. An absolute wonderful way to end an excellent 17 days. I already miss the snooker

[stephenm2682]

The turned down blue was even easier with the perfect angle to open the red and green, instead he rolled up to the brown

[Giggity1984]

There was a red selby played that he potted and there was an available pink into the right centre it was an easy ish pot but once again turned down in favour of a snooker, another example was the reds close to the corner black pocket the only way he could get the white safe was to play of the side rail with enough pace to go in off after he deliberated for an age he played the shot then acted like he had made the biggest mistake of his life...the bloke is an affront to snooker full stop.

Your examples sound vague to me, you'd have to show me. However, I think I know the pink you're talking about and if it is the one I'm thinking of(He was close to the corner pocket, pink on it's spot) then I think that 90 percent of the players would have played safe off that. 97 percent if you take into account that you're playing ROS in a world championship final.

[hrq147]

I am sure if there was anything he could have gone for which would have given him position for the next shot he would have played it.

like I said most times he made a good pot was unfortunate to have nothing easy to go for, so he had to play safe. in the end he is not going to play some risky pot where his chances of getting it is 50% or less miss it and then let Ronnie in to win the frame.

this is exactly what Judd Trump did against Robinson, he went for outrageous shots which in the end cost him the match, I'm sure looking back at it he would have rather played safe and wait for a better opportunity.

I can not fully agree with the opinion that "he made a good pot was unfortunate to have nothing easy to go for". It is not always about luck, I would say at least for some long pots he intend to try with defensive purpose, like landing the cue ball after the line so as to produce another "excellent" snooker. That is what I thought his style is, and why I can't really enjoy his play.

[gem]

The turned down blue was even easier with the perfect angle to open the red and green, instead he rolled up to the brown

Not an easy hit and no guarantee of being on the red if he did split them. He played the correct shot, especially at the time of the match. Weaker minded players may have tried the split and lost the frame.

[Odrl]

There was a red selby played that he potted and there was an available pink into the right centre it was an easy ish pot but once again turned down in favour of a snooker

I didn't think you would find even one. :smile: Obviously I don't remember the specific situation, but will gladly take a look if you know what frame it was in...

another example was the reds close to the corner black pocket the only way he could get the white safe was to play of the side rail with enough pace to go in off after he deliberated for an age he played the shot then acted like he had made the biggest mistake of his life

He probably wasn't too disappointed to see the white go in, but of course it would have been safe even if had stayed in the jaws.

[attilahun]

The turned down blue was even easier with the perfect angle to open the red and green, instead he rolled up to the brown

There is no need for examples. Anyone who saw the match and has a little honour and self-esteem will admit that Selby was a coward and was afraid to play his natural game so he used that tactic to slow down play and keet things tight to annoy Ronnie and drag him down until he loses focus and interest.

[Gary Hall]

Nothing wrong with playing the percentage game rather than always being attacking.

If Ronnie had played like selby and went on to win coming back from 10 - 5 down like selby did, everyone would be like yes well played/deserved. But no because it was selby its so called not allowed lol.

[gem]

There is no need for examples. Anyone who saw the match and has a little honour and self-esteem will admit that Selby was a coward and was afraid to play his natural game so he used that tactic to slow down play and keet things tight to annoy Ronnie and drag him down until he loses focus and interest.

Ronnie has been quoted as enjoying 'intimidating' players and making them afraid to play their natural game. Selby did this to Ronnie and it was a great example to others. It shows that if you can play to your own strengths then anything is possible.

[Giggity1984]

There is no need for examples. Anyone who saw the match and has a little honour and self-esteem will admit that Selby was a coward and was afraid to play his natural game so he used that tactic to slow down play and keet things tight to annoy Ronnie and drag him down until he loses focus and interest.

I saw the match. I have plenty of honour and quite a bit of self esteem. Selby was no coward. Look at the break in the final frame for proof. You're just plain wrong.

Seriously, post up some videos, prove me wrong! I welcome evidence. I will post examples of potential big breaks ruined by bad luck in response.

Edit = I realise they both had good and bad luck, but Ronnie doesn't get the abuse for playing safe when he could have potted(which he did do in the final too!)

Examples are required, because clearly I was Watching a different match, and need reducating on a sport I have been watching for many years!

[cyberheater]

Ronnie has been quoted as enjoying 'intimidating' players and making them afraid to play their natural game. Selby did this to Ronnie and it was a great example to others. It shows that if you can play to your own strengths then anything is possible.

I can understand that point of view but the problem is that it generates ugly snooker to look at. The ultimate expression of that would be that players only potted a ball that he knew he'd get 100% percent of the time and if not. He just plays safe all the time. What a horrible way to play snooker. But it's okay because it gets results. It frustrates the other opponent and the player gets to win frames. Fab.

[attilahun]

I saw the match. I have plenty of honour and quite a bit of self esteem. Selby was no coward. Look at the break in the final frame for proof. You're just plain wrong.

Examples are required, because clearly I was Watching a different match, and need reducating on a sport I have been watching for many years!

So you say that what we saw was his natural game? As vmax4steve said........BOLLOCKS!!!!

[Giggity1984]

So you say that what we saw was his natural game? As vmax4steve said........BOLLOCKS!!!!

No, hardly. He's a prolific break builder. But, the amount of times he potted a ball and run out of position was unreal.