UK Championship 25/11 - 7/12

[cyberheater]

Yeah...absurd! While we're at it maybe they can stop the moronic 'respect' advert inbetween frames as well...man I can just about dream that one...talk about ridiculous

LOL.

Watching the smurph vs hull match now. Such a great player is Shaun.

[robertmac]

Nice to see Doherty, Walker and Lisowski make it
through and tomorrow I will enjoy Trumps match
and Murphy as well.

[alabadi]

just a thought watching Ronnie not escaping a couple of snookers then the ref fannying around exactly repositioning the balls how bout pre escape attempt, marking the positions with a chalk spot? ?????
even football has made recent progress with the disappearing spray at free kicks.
ok ducks for cover. .

i think its so easy to use technolgy, seems ridiculous they don't. with all the cameras they have plus Hawkeye they can use a it to take a digital image of the table. and in case of a miss just project the ball positions onto the table. would save loads of messing around and having to ask the chuckle brothers to keep telling them .....to the left to the right , to me, to you.

[gavpowell]

in case of a miss just project the ball positions onto the table.

I've thought this for years, but I'd swear I saw this happening in the last couple of weeks - maybe in Chengdu?

[robertmac]

From the World Snooker website:

He will be returning to Sheffield United's medical department to further his rehabilitation before his next match.


"I've been down there for the last three days solid and I owe them a big thank you," he said. "I have been getting them to put me through whatever footballers do when they break their ankles.

[alabadi]

Why did Kyren take on that first red near the black pocket. He's not managed to pot one of those the whole match. Gave the frame and match away.

Congrats Neil.

i was watching Wilson closely and every time he missed a pot it was to the left of the pocket. i remember JV commentating saying he didn't push the cue through straight on one of the shots.

as i had it recorded i re winded every shot he missed and ran it in slow motion. i found he pushes the cue right to left which meant he cued across it putting a bit of left , which meant the cueball pushed slightly right and hit the OB right of where desired and in turn hit the left jaws.

i do the exact same thing on power shots.

i was surprised the commentary didn't analyse it further.

[cyberheater]

i was watching Wilson closely and every time he missed a pot it was to the left of the pocket. i remember JV commentating saying he didn't push the cue through straight on one of the shots.

as i had it recorded i re winded every shot he missed and ran it in slow motion. i found he pushes the cue right to left which meant he cued across it putting a bit of left , which meant the cueball pushed slightly right and hit the OB right of where desired and in turn hit the left jaws.

i do the exact same thing on power shots.

i was surprised the commentary didn't analyse it further.

Well observed mate. And I do the same on power shots and it's something I've been working on a lot in practice.

Getting back to Wilson. There was no reason for him to hit that shot that hard. Just normal speed and he'd have been on something. In fact. I felt he hit the ball too hard throughout most of the match.

[Odrl]

I've thought this for years, but I'd swear I saw this happening in the last couple of weeks - maybe in Chengdu?

Yes, most of the Chinese venues now have something similar. They can't project the image onto the table, but there is a large screen showing the current position of the balls, with circles around the spots balls need to be moved into. They even blink a little whenever a ball is moved exactly where it needs to be. It doesn't save on time that much, but it's very accurate and pretty much allows for flawless repositioning of all balls.

Funnily enough, there was a situation a couple of seasons ago when Eirian Williams failed to make use of this aid. A couple of colours had moved, and Eirian Williams was convinced one of them should go back onto its spot, even though the circle was somewhere completely different. In the end he didn't fully trust the technology and prefered to rely on his own memory instead. Needles to say the technology was right and he ended up making a real mess of things. :smile:

[inacion]

Was shocking to see Barry Hawkins knocked out after winning 5-0, sometimes snooker is very unpredictable.
I'm disappointed with Luca Brecel performance, even against Mark Allen he should have done better.
Ronnie O'Sullivan isn't at his best but enough to win so far.
Kyren Wilson had a solid match against Neil Robertson, seems a very promising player. The upset was very close.

[neuronic]

Ronnie: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/snooker/30269961

Personally I think the new set up and the BO11 matches won't do any good to the UK. It doesn't feel as great and special as it used to.
Will anybody be like "Oh, the UK used to be so boring and old fashioned but now it feels so exciting and fresh, I must go and buy me some tickets!"? I don't think so. I'm no old person and I like watching snooker because it's old fashioned. And unhurried. And I don't like Barry Hearn

[daffie]

Yes, most of the Chinese venues now have something similar. They can't project the image onto the table, but there is a large screen showing the current position of the balls, with circles around the spots balls need to be moved into. They even blink a little whenever a ball is moved exactly where it needs to be. It doesn't save on time that much, but it's very accurate and pretty much allows for flawless repositioning of all balls.

Funnily enough, there was a situation a couple of seasons ago when Eirian Williams failed to make use of this aid. A couple of colours had moved, and Eirian Williams was convinced one of them should go back onto its spot, even though the circle was somewhere completely different. In the end he didn't fully trust the technology and prefered to rely on his own memory instead. Needles to say the technology was right and he ended up making a real mess of things. :smile:

Yes I clearly remember this situation with Williams. It was very surprising to me, first that a ref would indeed go with his own memory instead of referring to the technology that was there specifically for such a situation. And secondly that he was 'allowed' to do so. As much as I'm for a high level of ref discretion, the technology for replacing the balls back in their former order has such clear benefits over human memory. Like in football nowadays the goal-line technology will inform the ref whether it was indeed a goal or wasn't and the ref will take that decision and rule accordingly, never himself questioning it instead. I would like to see such a system in snooker for replacing the balls. There must be a relatively foolproof way to achieve this...

[DeanH]

also considering that Eirian Williams (IIRC) has admitted that he is "not the best" at remembering where balls were, etc; so then to go by his own recall instead of the handy technology ...

[daffie]

Ronnie: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/snooker/30269961

Personally I think the new set up and the BO11 matches won't do any good to the UK. It doesn't feel as great and special as it used to...

I completely agree...never cared for the many-table setup. Guess I'm old-school

[alabadi]

Well observed mate. And I do the same on power shots and it's something I've been working on a lot in practice.

Getting back to Wilson. There was no reason for him to hit that shot that hard. Just normal speed and he'd have been on something. In fact. I felt he hit the ball too hard throughout most of the match.

i think we all do this , its a problem of mine too. it always happens when under pressure and this is when we start hitting it harder than we need , same as Wilson did.

well at least we know it happens to everyone not just us then

[Odrl]

A pleasant surprise from Eurosport this afternoon, covering both TV tables. :smile: Since I have nothing else to do for the rest of the day, I'll just watch them both then, one after the other. :smile: