UK Championship 25/11 - 7/12

[Masterdoctorgenius]

8-4 great break, plz dont collapse like against selby

[daffie]

this will be a long night

Yes I will be getting enough hours of sleep tonight...that's guaranteed

[Ronnie's tip]

Have been doing family stuff all day so this is my first chance to watch any of it.

Looks like a good opportunity to go 4 frames ahead. Has it been a good match?

The quality has been poor from both. I'd say their C games, and not a patch on their CoC final.
But I've enjoyed watching it. It has been ok if you don't mind those type of matches.

[Masterdoctorgenius]

genius break

[brusque]

This place really is insufferable at times. So many clueless idiots who have never played the game or understand how little rubs or bits of bad luck determine the outcome in a match at this level.

Anyone who thinks Trump hasn't suffered terrible run of luck in this match must be on a wind up. Every frame in this match you can pinpoint a bad run for Judd, be it a bad split, a kick or Ronnie getting away with bad shots and not leaving anything. Please do not comment on Judd playing poorly when you haven't got a clue about the game, even the commentators have all said the same thing, he hasn't had much go for him today, that is the difference in winning and losing at this level.

u dun have a clue mate .... no pun intended .... if this is what Judd can do against a mediocre RoS ... I leave it to you to figure out how he'd fare against RoS in top form ..... Trump can jump up n down all his life but I'd rather watch Selby all day long than this joker

[Dr_Doctor]

That was quick.

[Odrl]

The game looks so much easier when O'Sullivan is at the table, you just now he will finish off the frame once he gets to 50, unlike Trump.

8-4 is a great lead, but I think Trump had the same advantage against Allen in 2011, and Allen managed to get back within a frame. Should have been 6-6 really, if Trump didn't break down twice, or at least if he knew how to protect a lead better. :smile:

[cueman]

The quality has been poor from both. I'd say their C games, and not a patch on their CoC final.
But I've enjoyed watching it. It has been ok if you don't mind those type of matches.

Yes its been poor but I think the fact the COC was such a high standard makes this match a hard one to live up to. This is a far bigger prize though and also you can't underestimate the fact that its been a long event, 7th match of the tournament, they are bound to be feeling pretty tired at this stage. Experience counts for a lot in matches like this and of course Ronnie has a major advantage in that department. Trump is still relatively a novice in big finals, only the 3rd major BBC final event of his career.

He will be a stronger player for it in the long run, the fact that he is the only player currently offering a challenge to O'Sullivan is a worry for the game.

[Masterdoctorgenius]

u dun have a clue mate .... no pun intended .... if this is what Judd can do against a mediocre RoS ... I leave it to you to figure out how he'd fare against RoS in top form ..... Trump can jump up n down all his life but I'd rather watch Selby all day long than this joker

sadly the genius of selby died to the hands of david morris

[Ronnie's tip]

u dun have a clue mate .... no pun intended .... if this is what Judd can do against a mediocre RoS ... I leave it to you to figure out how he'd fare against RoS in top form ..... Trump can jump up n down all his life but I'd rather watch Selby all day long than this joker

Trump took on ROS at his best and only lost 10-7. At one point was 8-7. He also beat ROS in the UK in a decider the year ROS won the world (Masters too, but ROS was sick).

Trump's head to head vs ROS is likely in the top 3 or 4 of current players.

[cebs]

Hazel just said Selby vs Murphy will be the first match at the masters, is this right?

Surely it will be Ronnie as he won it last year?

I thought that was the normal format for tournament winner to open the next one and the only match for which the public knows one of the player's for sure. I've bought extra tickets for some friends for the Sunday and will be annoyed if it's not Ronnie. Not saying Selby vs Murphy will be a bad match but not the same.

[Ronnie's tip]

Yes its been poor but I think the fact the COC was such a high standard makes this match a hard one to live up to. This is a far bigger prize though and also you can't underestimate the fact that its been a long event, 7th match of the tournament, they are bound to be feeling pretty tired at this stage. Experience counts for a lot in matches like this and of course Ronnie has a major advantage in that department. Trump is still relatively a novice in big finals, only the 3rd major BBC final event of his career.

He will be a stronger player for it in the long run, the fact that he is the only player currently offering a challenge to O'Sullivan is a worry for the game.

I think there's a few who can beat ROS - Selby, Robertson and Trump. ROS is naturally the favourite most of the time but that's because he's simply the best. We also should remember that it's not rare for things like this to happen. John Higgins from 07-11 just felt invincible and there wasn't the same complaints as there is now. Hendry had it too. It's not so different to football or tennis. It's just a fact of life. The best players scare the rest - there's only usually a small group who you feel can actually defeat the very best. I do think snooker would be better with an elite group like the era of prime Higgins/ROS/Williams, but those days don't happen very often.

I believe the bigger worry is the next generation. When ROS goes and the era of Robertson/Selby slows down, who is there to stop Ding and Trump? Those two could easily be the exact same as ROS is now. From 27 and below, I can only think of two top players.

[daffie]

That was a nice ditty with Steve Davis about centuries. Hendry and Ronnie's first when they where 11 years old! Terry Griffiths...he was 24 Goes to show how much this game has changed since the 90s when Hendry came along and changed the way the game is played.

[Odrl]

This is a bad time for Trump to leave O'Sullivan these early chances. A loose red and O'Sullivan with his hand on the table, right from the break-off...

[daffie]

Yep right away in amongst the balls he is. Black tied up though, so not easy at all.