UK Championship 25/11 - 7/12

[gwltabb]

ROS played just as bad this time last year. Scraped over the edge in the COC final vs Bingham, then lost to Bingham at the UK. Also had a poor performance vs Joe Perry and Mark Selby at the worlds. Through the middle of that period he destroyed everyone at the Welsh Open and Masters, so there's no long term worry.

Higgins and Selby are (rightly) praised when they win tournaments with their B/C game. Why not ROS?

That being said if he plays like this at the worlds or Masters, then he won't win anything if he faces an in form Robertson/Trump/Selby etc.

Agreed. There is no rocket science to this, it's followed the same pattern since ROS came back and won the Worlds in 2012. If he plays at the top of his game (like Champion of Champions), he wins, no matter who he plays or how well they play. If he doesn't play to the top of his game, he still wins due to either i) his b game is better than mosts a game, or ii) he has them beat before his hits a ball.

Where it doesn't fall into this category is against the very top players, Ding, Selby, Robertson, Trump. Then it is down to can they play their a game, if they can they have a very good chance of winning. Trump just fell short tonight.

[gwltabb]

if I have to chose a guy to bet my life on a snooker frame ... Even Steve Davis would come before Ronnie...

ah that's brilliant. At least we definitely know you're a troll now

[brusque]

ah that's brilliant. At least we definitely know you're a troll now

This is a public forum and I am entitled to my views. You are free to criticize them or disagree with them but dun try to act smarter than u really r

[gwltabb]

This is a public forum and I am entitled to my views. You are free to criticize them or disagree with them but dun try to act smarter than u really r

Fair enough but in return is there any chance you can act a little less dumb than you really are?

[brusque]

Fair enough but in return is there any chance you can act a little less dumb than you really are?

who the **** r u to decide who is dumb n who is not? any credentials? why do I have to fulfill your "intelligence criteria?" Why can I not have my views no matter how dumb they appear to u?

[ronniex]

Poor man's Ronnie has lost again with his uncontrolled position and madman's fast cueing showing off his power and lack of intelligence. The king has wins with champion position and his B-game because he can.

[Odrl]

I got my good evening of snooker in the end. At 9-4 I never thought this match would come anywhere close to being a classic, but the last hour or so was great stuff. And that's all that will be remembered from this match, except by the few of us who have a good memory for mediocre snooker. :smile:

Every credit to Trump for the way he came back into the match. He really had O'Sullivan under pressure and I thought he just might win when O'Sullivan missed that black off the spot in the penultimate frame. As Trump said, he still has a lot to learn, and I do hope he looks back at some of his tactical choices and some of the frames he threw away in the first session and in the first couple of frames tonight. If he looks back to some of his performances this week, and some of O'Sullivan's, he will probably wonder how the hell he is not the UK champion. He probably would have been, had he not left himself so much to do tonight.

A big thanks to O'Sullivan for getting me lots of points in the fantasy game, the title and a maximum as well, can't ask for more than that. :smile: He played better with each match, and he once again took command early on in the final, like so many times before. He wobbled a little towards the end, but played a pretty strong decider. I think the key shot was the safety he played to put Trump under pressure, the one that resulted in Trump bringing a red up the table and giving him the chance to play the snooker. He could have easily lost the match if he hadn't played such a good shot there. :wink:

And finally, let's end on a somewhat negative note... Sometimes you get tournaments where everyone seems to be playing really well, sometimes it's only a couple of players, but the winner almost always has to play some good snooker throughout the week. O'Sullivan didn't play too badly tonight, but I think his performance throughout the tournament is probably the worst I have seen from any winner of a really big tournament since I've been watching snooker. I usually try not to resort to overstatements to make a point, so I hope I am not doing so here. He was let off the hook so many times by various players, and he was rarely pushed to raise his game, which is a great shame. He was the one left standing in the end, which is all you can ask from a player, but some of his rivals will have to have a think about the mediocre standard that was required to win this tournament and why they themselves weren't able to achieve it. :wink:

Looking forward to the Masters. :smile:

[mythman69]

Has anyone got a link to the last hour (or the deciding frame)?

All I can find on youtube is session 1.

Thanks!

Edit: found the second half of the match

[brusque]

Poor man's Ronnie has lost again with his uncontrolled position and madman's fast cueing showing off his power and lack of intelligence. The king has wins with champion position and his B-game because he can.

hahaha @ "poor man's ronnie".... kinda agree wid u ... though Trump, for a change, took the defeat nicely ... so I will be kind to him in future

[ken147]

Come on you Ronnie haters! He just won the UK Champs with a broken/sprained ankle. You can't blame him for not playing his "A" game.

[gavpowell]

ROS played just as bad this time last year. Scraped over the edge in the COC final vs Bingham

Hang on, it wasn't entirely vintage stuff but he came from 5-3 down and won 10-8 with some sensational moments thrown in. 10-8 isn't scraping over the edge.

[vilkrang]

Ronnie has won the highest percentage of final frame deciders.

[robertmac]

Both players played some great frames, some
average frames and some poor frames. Neither
was consistent which is a surprise to me.
I was expecting several centuries from both
players and some tight safety play. Either one
of them could have won it.

[Ronnie's tip]

How is Trump a mini-Ronnie? Just because he's entertaining?

They're different players. Only similarity is they're quick and have an attacking game. Stylistically, I think they're different. Trump is destructive, ROS is more of a wizard.

Hang on, it wasn't entirely vintage stuff but he came from 5-3 down and won 10-8 with some sensational moments thrown in. 10-8 isn't scraping over the edge.

I thought the quality of that match was poor. Maybe ROS ended the match with a good break or two but he did that with 3 awesome breaks vs Joe Perry.

[gavpowell]

Because he's a natural talent, plays with flair and aggression, same as Ronnie. But I've been saying for years Trump isn't the new Ronnie, he's more the new Jimmy White.