The Masters 2016 10-17 January

[Billy]

Well that was an excellent match for me, shame Mark handed the final frame to ROS with the silly plant attempt, but a really enjoyable session all the same.

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I switched channels when he let Ronnie in on that decider, but my tactic didn't work. Ronnie still won.

[Dr_Doctor]

That was a great match. I wanted Mark to play that plant so I don't blame him for that. With the way Ronnie was break-building, I saw no point in Mark playing a difficult safety there.

[Odrl]

I thought it was quite enjoyable as well, but my mother watched the match with me and protested loudly when Johnson said "what a great match this has been". I guess you can't please everyone. :smile:

O'Sullivan certainly had some luck at important times this afternoon. A fluke directly won him the second frame, and Williams was left with no shot after that great black when he had the chance to make it 5-3. The plant was ill-advised, but sometimes you just can't help yourself. I don't play snooker myself, except in video games, where I just have to go for a plant when I think it's on, so I can definitely relate. But then again, Williams plays snooker for a living, so perhaps he should be more calculating. :wink:

Should be a good match tonight as well. :smile:

[trains]

Yes re Williams attempting the plant you've got to wonder would he try that shot with that lead at that stage v anyone else,bit sad that some players seem to not mind losing v O'S.
Glad that Ronnie won though.

[barrywhite]

MJW has always favoured attacking snooker and good safety. He was the potter in his day don't forget so a plant is hardly something outrageously big for his talent.

But the top dog does it again. Daddeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Glad he didn't cruise it, he'll have to get on the practice table now and turn up the heat. Cuz he will win nowt at that level. He needs to find a couple more gears. But he's through and that's what counts. 5-5-5; believe!

[Masterdoctorgenius]

didnt a plant win MJW the WC final vs doherty

[barrywhite]

didnt a plant win MJW the WC final vs doherty

He tried today and failed but it wasn't for want of trying. The only way for him to beat Ronnie is to attack. If he plays tons of safety, the balls get messed up and breaks are difficult, Ronnie will have him because he has that ability to pull off a wonder break from thin air. Ronnie likes to be on top applying the pressure, he gets nervous the other way round, so MJW had the right game plan. On another day, when the green wasn't fluked, it would have worked. MJW still believes he has the talent to play like that so good on him. If he'd refused the plant and Ronnie had won anyway he'd be thinking what if.

[PatBlock]

MJW has always favoured attacking snooker and good safety. He was the potter in his day don't forget so a plant is hardly something outrageously big for his talent.

My problem with that particular plant was that Mark seemed to talk himself into it. I'll have to take another look when it becomes available on youtube later, but as I recall, from that angle it just didn't seem on, it was always going to the far jaw for me. On top of which, the consequences of missing it were, well, disastrous. But of course hindsight is a wonderful thing after the fact.
Did you think it was on?

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[barrywhite]

My problem with that particular plant was that Mark seemed to talk himself into it. I'll have to take another look when it becomes available on youtube later, but as I recall, from that angle it just didn't seem on, it was always going to the far jaw for me. On top of which, the consequences of missing it were, well, disastrous. But of course hindsight is a wonderful thing after the fact.
Did you think it was on?

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Don't forget in his mind are the pockets, even if the plant isn't plumb, will the pockets take the ball in off the knuckle? The right answer in his mind is yes because he hit a red along the rail that glanced the black rail half way along and still went in! Steve Davis said in commentary that the pockets are really big. MJW can see this plain as day so maybe thought it would it drop? Even if a plant isn't plumb, you can squeeze the balls and make one drop. It's really how he saw it which I hope we find out from interviews.

[barrywhite]

Tonight at 7.30pm, Selby v. Tricky Ricky.

Not sure who to support here. Should be a close match. Selby has to be favourite but on his day, Tricky Ricky can take you to the cleaners with his unorthodox stance and technique. He don't hang about!

Big contrast in styles, Robot v. Human.

Ok............... c'mon Tricky Ricky!

[Dr_Doctor]

I may look at the balls again later. I felt any safety had a wide margin of error which could leave Ronnie a chance. With the way Ronnie was playing, I agree with him with that plant. How many awkward balls did Ronnie pot today?

[daffie]

Ah chirp...what a shame about MJW not coming through in the end. Don't know about the plant...seemed bit too farfetched to me.

Ah well...on with the show then. Looking forward to tonight's match!

[barrywhite]

Ah chirp...what a shame about MJW not coming through in the end. Don't know about the plant...seemed bit too farfetched to me.

Ah well...on with the show then. Looking forward to tonight's match!

Winner playes the Ronster. Ronnie fans will be hoping for Tricky Ricky, Ronnie has a good record against Tricky, that awesome whitewash being memorable. And the 2015 encounter producing 775 tons; history!

[daffie]

Don't need to tell you who I'm rooting for then

[acpc89]

It's strange at how good a match MJW v Ronnie was, even though the quality big breaks weren't thick and fast and it did go scrappy quite often. But Ronnie's potting throughout was insanely good at times and considering he wasn't playing fantastic still got a 60 and 2 centuries, and but for the miscue in frame 3, could of been one of the best clearances he's done.

MJW obviously played his part, but the amount of plants hes attempted and missed against Ronnie is quite a lot, i think there was 2 last time they played in the Worlds that cost him 2 frames, and I think he missed 2 today. Hopefully it wont be Selby against Ronnie, but if it is, he will have play better, although other than the fluked green in frame 2, he had horrendous luck, almost as bad as Maguire's luck against Trump.