Welsh Open 2016 - Discussion

[acpc89]

Opening break of 110 from Ronnie was total boss! Much better than the 146 yesterday.

[cantpotforshíte]

Ronnie's cue ball has been absolutely phenomenal this tournament.

[streamer45]

that was impressive ...

[motorhead]

Pengfei doesn't know what hit him

[Billy]

I think today has been an example of what the haters can't accept, if they're honest. They can criticise this man for all manner of things, but his prowess isn't one of them. His natural ability is nothing short of frightening, and those who dislike him for his antics find this fact hard to accept.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I think today has been an example of what the haters can't accept, if they're honest. They can criticise this man for all manner of things, but his prowess isn't one of them. His natural ability is nothing short of frightening, and those who dislike him for his antics find this fact hard to accept.

Jealousy.

That was sublime.

[sh1234]

What happened in the Higgins-Baird game? On the live scoring website it says Higgins won frame two 31-0 and frame four 25-0.

[Odrl]

I've enjoyed all three matches so far today. :smile:

A strong performance from O'Sullivan, surely one of the quickest best-of-7 wins. Four high breaks, and only really wasted one scoring chance all match. The graphics at the end were a little silly though, 100% long pot and safety success. Did I imagine the roll-up into the pack that left Tian a fairly easy red above the black? :wink:

[acpc89]

I've enjoyed all three matches so far today. :smile:

A strong performance from O'Sullivan, surely one of the quickest best-of-7 wins. Four high breaks, and only really wasted one scoring chance all match. The graphics at the end were a little silly though, 100% long pot and safety success. Did I imagine the roll-up into the pack that left Tian a fairly easy red above the black? :wink:

Cant quite remember, but when he rolled into the pack, was he not snookered, so was more of a containing shot than a safety? Perhaps that's down to semantics now....

[Odrl]

Cant quite remember, but when he rolled into the pack, was he not snookered, so was more of a containing shot than a safety? Perhaps that's down to semantics now....

I'm not sure that would make any difference, as a snooker escape is by definition a safety, surely? But no, I don't think he was snookered on that particular shot. :smile:

[acpc89]

I'm not sure that would make any difference, as a snooker escape is by definition a safety, surely? But no, I don't think he was snookered on that particular shot. :smile:

I'm not entirely sure myself. But the BBC stats are made up sometimes I'm sure. Seen players miss long pots and because its a shot to nothing its classed as a safety? But if it goes in, its a long pot?! Also, when players have played safe and left the shot to nothing on, it was deemed a decent safety shot whether they get it or not. Would like to know exactly how the rules are for the stats though.

[Odrl]

I'm not entirely sure myself. But the BBC stats are made up sometimes I'm sure. Seen players miss long pots and because its a shot to nothing its classed as a safety? But if it goes in, its a long pot?! Also, when players have played safe and left the shot to nothing on, it was deemed a decent safety shot whether they get it or not. Would like to know exactly how the rules are for the stats though.

I can't think of any possible way the safety success statistic could be done automatically, apart from maybe counting every shot that is followed by a pot as an unsuccessful safety. But that would clearly be a nonsensical system.

So I imagine someone updates the stats manually after every shot, and they just make a common sense decision whether the safety was a good one or not. But this is just my guess. :smile:

[tetricky]

Surely it's a successful safety if it's not followed by a pot, it's unsuccessful if it is?

It's a safety if there is an attempt to leave a safe white ball. it's a pot attempt if there is an attempt at position. Shots to nothing are safety shots (because of the white ball) or missed long pots (because position was played).

i don't know, I'm just guessing.

There are no formal rules (as defined within the game) to how stats are formed. The only important statistic is the score....it's not how, it's how many. It's just chunder to give people something to drone on about.

[Odrl]

Surely it's a successful safety if it's not followed by a pot, it's unsuccessful if it is?

Hm... I suppose that's technically true, but if you do it like that, you get a fairly worthless statistic. You could leave a sitter over the pocket and your percentage would go up if your opponent failed to pot it. Or you could leave the white on the baulk cushion with nothing obvious on, and your opponent would pot something ridiculous... So I think a safety should be deemed successful if you get the kind of result you had in mind when you played it, and obviously that would require someone manually pressing the button after every shot to measure the success rate. :smile:

[tetricky]

It would also require someone to know what was in your mind. Do you want the players to press "the button"?