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  • #151
    Originally Posted by acpc89 View Post
    Cant quite remember, but when he rolled into the pack, was he not snookered, so was more of a containing shot than a safety? Perhaps that's down to semantics now....
    Originally Posted by Odrl View Post
    I'm not sure that would make any difference, as a snooker escape is by definition a safety, surely? But no, I don't think he was snookered on that particular shot. :smile:
    yes he was snookered

    https://youtu.be/z9FFRNcc6mY?t=33m7s

    agree with acpc, that (rightfully) doesn't count towards the stats.

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    • #152
      Originally Posted by tetricky View Post
      Surely it's a successful safety if it's not followed by a pot, it's unsuccessful if it is?
      not really. Odrl explained why.

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      • #153
        Am I going mad? :smile:

        O'Sullivan is quite clearly not snookered on that shot. He can see reds full ball, he just didn't want to play off the pack because a red was in the way.

        As I said, I don't particularly care how they calculate the safety stats, but I can't see why a roll-up into the pack shouldn't count towards them, snooker or not. It's an attempt of a safety, and it's either successful or not. In this case, it wasn't. :wink:

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        • #154
          Originally Posted by Odrl View Post
          Am I going mad? :smile:

          O'Sullivan is quite clearly not snookered on that shot. He can see reds full ball, he just didn't want to play off the pack because a red was in the way.

          As I said, I don't particularly care how they calculate the safety stats, but I can't see why a roll-up into the pack shouldn't count towards them, snooker or not. It's an attempt of a safety, and it's either successful or not. In this case, it wasn't. :wink:
          yes you are right, although I should have specified that I meant he was snookered on possible reds on to pot; the one to the right of the pack and the one to the left of the blue. guess only the guy that keeps the stats can answer on the criteria used, even commentators say they themselves don't know much about it and indeed there's often some discrepancies.

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          • #155
            Caught just a few matches so far, two of them were MJW's .... is he really that out of form or what is going on?
            Also happy with most of my favourite players coming through, it seems that Matthew Stevens has played pretty solid, most likely he scored almost 400 unanswered points in his second round match.
            Would love to see Brecel vs Murphy, have to record it, stupid work .....
            I hope Anthony Hamilton will progress to the next round now, that break to finish of Stuart Bingham was pretty classy.
            Last edited by Hal; 17 February 2016, 08:35 AM.

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            • #156
              Anyone else think that it's a shame the 1pm games are not all on tv. All 4 could be quite good. And is it the 3rd mark Selby match not on tv? Quite surprising been world no.1 and all. Although I'm not a huge fan if his....still surprising.

              Dings match could be a cracker unless set wilts with the pressure on him. Hawkins match with two top players also tv worthy. Let's just hope williams manages to up his form cos I do enjoy watching him play but his last 2 performances have been anything but enjoyable to watch....
              Last edited by acpc89; 17 February 2016, 09:56 AM. Reason: Didn't make sense woops!

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              • #157
                Originally Posted by acpc89 View Post
                Anyone else think that the 1pm games are not all in tv. All 4 could be quite good. And is it the 3rd mark Selby match not on tv? Quite surprising been world no.1 and all. Although I'm not a huge fan if his....still surprising.

                Dings match could be a cracker unless set wilts with the pressure on him. Hawkins match with two top players also tv worthy. Let's just hope williams manages to up his form cos I do enjoy watching him play but his last 2 performances have been anything but enjoyable to watch....
                They could call it the Mark Williams Open and be done with it I guess

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                • #158
                  Meh!

                  The China Open tends to feature televised matches featuring the Chinese lads.

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                  • #159
                    Originally Posted by Rane View Post
                    I Guess it must be three fail and misses with a ball on.
                    I would have thought that but that's never happened twice in one match to my knowledge, certainly not in four frames. I was thinking maybe he threw in the towel early a couple of times.

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                    • #160
                      Originally Posted by streamer45 View Post
                      They could call it the Mark Williams Open and be done with it I guess
                      You're not suggesting the Welsh are prone to bias, are you?

                      I don't care either way, I love watching MW.
                      "Kryten, isn't it round about this time of year that your head goes back to the lab for retuning?"

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                      • #161
                        Originally Posted by Billy View Post
                        You're not suggesting the Welsh are prone to bias, are you?

                        I don't care either way, I love watching MW.
                        I wouldn't dare , I do too love watching MW, especially when he plays better than the last couple of matches.

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                        • #162


                          Does anyone know what that 1980s style remote control thing some of the refs are carrying is? It's obviously some kind of counter as you see them press a button after they've respotted a colour, but I can't think what it might be for exactly.
                          "Kryten, isn't it round about this time of year that your head goes back to the lab for retuning?"

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                          • #163
                            It's for the scoreboard mate

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                            • #164
                              Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
                              It's for the scoreboard mate
                              Oh, right. But in what way? I've never seen them being used in any other tourney.

                              Also, is anyone else of the opinion that part of MW's problem is that his technique deserts him when he has to play anything other than 'floaters'? Whenever he has to play a power shot, he seems to jab and come across the shot.
                              "Kryten, isn't it round about this time of year that your head goes back to the lab for retuning?"

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                              • #165
                                Originally Posted by Billy View Post
                                Oh, right. But in what way? I've never seen them being used in any other tourney.
                                sometimes the table only has a referee and no supporting Marker.
                                You see it often at qualifiers and non-tv tables.
                                Up the TSF! :snooker:

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