2016 Ladbrokes Players Championship Grand Finals

[Eracn]

I've never had it; if it's anything like the other Frey bentos (in flat tin) it would taste better than dog-food.

[DeanH]

2016 Ladbrokes Players Championship Grand Finals

don't disrepect our national dish!

only kidding
nope never had it
used to be Fray Bentos spam was a cheap food after WWII and rationing and all that. How they have continued I don't know

[jonny66]

I had an award winning pie once, it wasn't a Fray Bentos.

[jonny66]

Wham bam Woolaston

[Odrl]

That was one of the more pathetic deciders in recent times. It was one of those "a shame there has to be a winner" situations. :smile:

[jonny66]

I quite enjoyed that, sometimes **** snooker is better to watch than good snooker.

[itsnoteasy]

Best of sevens are killing the game, players are on edge right from the start, there is no time to get into the match.
It seems to be the in thing that audiences want short sharp matches and this will attract the youff and characters with no concentration but I don't think it will, they may try it once ,watch a very poor match and never come back, so you end up with no one watching as you haven't got a new audience and you have alienated your core support.

[DeanH]

Best of sevens are killing the game, players are on edge right from the start, there is no time to get into the match.
It seems to be the in thing that audiences want short sharp matches and this will attract the youff and characters with no concentration but I don't think it will, they may try it once ,watch a very poor match and never come back, so you end up with no one watching as you haven't got a new audience and you have alienated your core support.

good comments but I think this bit is the wrong way round
I don't think it is the audiences that want short matches (the opposite in fact I feel ), it is World Snooker that think audiences want short matches, and the youff-of-today are not bothered as to how long a matches is or not.
Also WS started the shorter matches because they had to get the number of matches into the short week for the PTCs to get the players playing more events, which gave fans more snooker to watch and not cost sponsors to much money laying on the event in the first place. - a bit of a vicious circle.
Now the PTCs are no longer, maybe we can get some longer matches at the new events, not heard what the home nation comps will be?
Now PTCs are

[PatBlock]

I quite enjoyed that, sometimes **** snooker is better to watch than good snooker.

I agree. Sometimes that's just the way it goes, they're only human after all and for me, watching them struggle out there can be just as entertaining as watching the sublime and it's always been that way. It is after all a very very difficult sport, and expecting top notch snooker every match, or even for it to be the norm, is simply unrealistic, problem is these days that's exactly the case, an awful lot of snooker fans seem to demand constant near perfection at 100mph and when they don't get it they run around screaming about how crap today's players are and how it's worse than watching their mates down the club.

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[itsnoteasy]

good comments but I think this bit is the wrong way round
I don't think it is the audiences that want short matches (the opposite in fact I feel ), it is World Snooker that think audiences want short matches, and the youff-of-today are not bothered as to how long a matches is or not.
Also WS started the shorter matches because they had to get the number of matches into the short week for the PTCs to get the players playing more events, which gave fans more snooker to watch and not cost sponsors to much money laying on the event in the first place. - a bit of a vicious circle.
Now the PTCs are no longer, maybe we can get some longer matches at the new events, not heard what the home nation comps will be?
Now PTCs are

Yep sorry Dean, it was meant to read that the in thinking( meaning those that run snooker) think the audiences want short matches.
I would sacrifice the early rounds even being best of five ( I know that's awful) as long say from the quarters it jumps to best of eleven, semis something like best of seventeen and final best of twenty one. Can you not make sessions ten frames instead of eight or seven, I will even allow an extra toilet break

[jonny66]

I agree. Sometimes that's just the way it goes, they're only human after all and for me, watching them struggle out there can be just as entertaining as watching the sublime and it's always been that way. It is after all a very very difficult sport, and expecting top notch snooker every match, or even for it to be the norm, is simply unrealistic, problem is these days that's exactly the case, an awful lot of snooker fans seem to demand constant near perfection at 100mph and when they don't get it they run around screaming about how crap today's players are and how it's worse than watching their mates down the club.

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Snooker is an easy game.

If you think it's difficult it will be difficult, the trick is to not think it's difficult, that's the difficult part.

So repeat after me. Snooker is an easy game.

[golferson123]

not keen on the shorter format, but its important to get a result in the attention span of the ordinary viewer, all sports have a core fan base but that base is not enough to ensure the health of the game, its a fine line hearn has to tread he knows the short format is far from ideal but he has to attract interest from the casual viewer, i remember in 77 & 78 i must have seen every frame live, it was great but i loved snooker then i would have watched two flies crawling up a window lol nowadays its ronnie or nothing

[jonny66]

Neal Foulds is my new favourite commentator after that bit with Shaun working with Chris Henry. He's no Sid Wadell though, snooker needs someone like him R.I.P

[Byrom]

Snooker is an easy game.

If you think it's difficult it will be difficult, the trick is to not think it's difficult, that's the difficult part.

So repeat after me. Snooker is an easy game.

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Snooker an easy game for difficult people

[itsnoteasy]

not keen on the shorter format, but its important to get a result in the attention span of the ordinary viewer, all sports have a core fan base but that base is not enough to ensure the health of the game, its a fine line hearn has to tread he knows the short format is far from ideal but he has to attract interest from the casual viewer, i remember in 77 & 78 i must have seen every frame live, it was great but i loved snooker then i would have watched two flies crawling up a window lol nowadays its ronnie or nothing

Is that Ronnie or nothing for you nowadays Golfy? Or more a general statement as to who the general public will watch.