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My favourite players: Walter Lindrum (AUS), Neil Robertson (AUS), Eddie Charlton (AUS), Robby Foldvari (AUS), Vinnie Calabrese (AUS), Jimmy White, Stephen Hendry, Alex Higgins, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Dominic Dale and Barry Hawkins.
I dream of a 147 (but would be happy with a 100)
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Originally Posted by gavpowell View PostIf it weren't chucking it down with rain and hail, how would you know it was nearly summer?
Why was Allen arguing over the free ball call?My favourite players: Walter Lindrum (AUS), Neil Robertson (AUS), Eddie Charlton (AUS), Robby Foldvari (AUS), Vinnie Calabrese (AUS), Jimmy White, Stephen Hendry, Alex Higgins, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Dominic Dale and Barry Hawkins.
I dream of a 147 (but would be happy with a 100)
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Originally Posted by Bigmeek View PostLooks like he didn't understand the meaning of "extreme edges".
no free ball.jpgLast edited by mythman69; 27 March 2016, 03:50 PM.My favourite players: Walter Lindrum (AUS), Neil Robertson (AUS), Eddie Charlton (AUS), Robby Foldvari (AUS), Vinnie Calabrese (AUS), Jimmy White, Stephen Hendry, Alex Higgins, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Dominic Dale and Barry Hawkins.
I dream of a 147 (but would be happy with a 100)
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Originally Posted by mythman69 View PostOr was the cue ball close enough to the object ball so the extreme edges possible to hit (regardless of the other ball) were not a ball width apart? (if that makes sense).
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Originally Posted by Bigmeek View PostYes you're right I think Mark was thinking he needed to be able to hit both sides. Very common misunderstanding.My favourite players: Walter Lindrum (AUS), Neil Robertson (AUS), Eddie Charlton (AUS), Robby Foldvari (AUS), Vinnie Calabrese (AUS), Jimmy White, Stephen Hendry, Alex Higgins, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Dominic Dale and Barry Hawkins.
I dream of a 147 (but would be happy with a 100)
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Originally Posted by Billy View PostI truly believe people only hold this opinion because it's been stated as 'fact' by so many commentators and players. It's a good cue action, but he plays every shot twice as hard as the better cueist in the game - like the aforementioned Robertson for example. Ding is another with a better cue action. I could go on.
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Originally Posted by mythman69 View PostLOL - true
Why was Allen arguing over the free ball call?Originally Posted by Bigmeek View PostLooks like he didn't understand the meaning of "extreme edges".Originally Posted by Bigmeek View PostYes you're right I think Mark was thinking he needed to be able to hit both sides. Very common misunderstanding.Originally Posted by mythman69 View PostNo, I think Mark might have been arguing that it wasn't a free ball because Walden could hit both sides (as in pic above) and it shouldn't be a free ball for Walden.Up the TSF! :snooker:
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Originally Posted by mythman69 View PostNo, I think Mark might have been arguing that it wasn't a free ball because Walden could hit both sides (as in pic above) and it shouldn't be a free ball for Walden.
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Originally Posted by Bigmeek View PostAgreed. That's what I mean. Lol. Knew this would get confusing! There's a difference between being able to hit both sides and being able to hit the extreme edges. The closer the cue is to the object ball affects the position of the extreme edges (as demonstrated by your picture). I was hoping Neil Foulds would have clarified things in the post session analysis but I don't think he did. I had to pop out so maybe I missed it. Anyway all over now so on to tonight's session.
I think the ref was right with declaring a free ball as the cue ball would have hit the green before the left extreme of the yellow.
For the definition of a snooker (and hence a free ball) there is no difference between whether you say "hit both sides" or "the extremes", as the terms mean the same as per the direct line from the cue ball to the object ball. The points of contact always vary as they are determined by the distance between the balls.
and then Allen gets a free ball a few minutes laterLast edited by DeanH; 27 March 2016, 05:36 PM.Up the TSF! :snooker:
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