2017 China Open

[Byrom]

Quality stuff from him.

Total agreement well said Ronnie.

[jonny66]

What's the Ding incident?

[trains]

I was disappointed by the TV choice this morning. That session had a couple of really interesting prospects on paper, such as Williams-Holt and Carter-White, but of course they went with Trump-Sharav which was predictably one sided. I can understand why they always show O'Sullivan, since the group of people who will only watch O'Sullivan and no one else is very real, but I'm not sure there are many fans who desperately want to see Trump thrash an outsider, rather than watch a more evenly-matched pairing. :smile: Anyway, of course Phil Studd greeted us with his opinion that Trump is "undoubtedly" the player of the season again this morning, and once again I would love to hear his reasoning, since Trump's results compare unfavourably to Selby's in my opinion. It's not a massive difference, but still... Also, his opinion that Fu has a great record at the Crucible is another weird one, considering Fu has only reached the business end of the World Championship three times in 16 attempts. It's better than a lot of players, sure, but "great" it is not. :wink:

I'm a bit surprised Odrl that a discerning viewer like yourself would actually even listen to Studd.

Just listen to something else and put the snooker commentary on mute,short of some inside info they might be keyed into which most often isn't a big deal and what little atmosphere there is in the arena you won't really be missing a thing.

[thai_son22]

What's the Ding incident?

The ding incident is that one of his sponsors on the waistcoat is a direct competitor of the Beijing bank who are the sponsors of the China open.

The wpbsa wanted the logo removed but ding refused and was docked a frame. Wpbsa have said that they only allowed ding to compete as not to disappoint fans.

[narl]

I don't see the point of docking him a frame for not removing the logo, he still goes out with it on regardless so its a minute pissing point from the wpbsa.

[jonny66]

The ding incident is that one of his sponsors on the waistcoat is a direct competitor of the Beijing bank who are the sponsors of the China open.

The wpbsa wanted the logo removed but ding refused and was docked a frame. Wpbsa have said that they only allowed ding to compete as not to disappoint fans.

I suppose I agree with Ronnie then, a fine would suffice. What rule did he get docked a frame under?

[thai_son22]

Well originally because of the conflict, ding actually shouldn't have been allowed to play.

At least that's the message i got from it. They simply only let him come because he a home favourite. Had it had been another player of not such high profile, they would not be allowed to compete.

As it was ding and it is China, they sent him out but docked him.

[thai_son22]

Regardless rule or no rule it's just a joke. They stated they only allowed him to compete because of the nature of the event and him being the highest profile Chinese player.

His people want to see him so it's just another case of leniency as it appears

[DeanH]

I think the frame was docked because he was not present at the start of the frame, standard penalty for not being on time.
BUT the reason why he was not present was because the logo argument and the Sponsors(?) and/or the Tournament Directors(?) would not let him proceed to the start of the frame.
I think this should have been dealt with much earlier and not affect the match time.
Poor show in my opinion of the sponsors/TDs (whichever caused the delay), I hope there will be words backstage to ensure in the future players are not affected by sponsors wishes to this extent.

[JimMalone]

I really don't know why Eurosport always has to show O'Sullivan or the very top players (Selby or Trump).
There are John Higgins and Mark Williams playing each other and they show Judd Trump vs. Tian Pengfei. Granted the standing at the midsession interval is the same with 3-1 to the favorite in both matches. But still from the start of the match you would have expected that Higgins vs. Williams should be the better and closer match. Also you have two guys there, who are not longer on their zenith, but who are still among the top or in Williams' case better players on the tour and who have six world titles among them. Would have been the much more promising duel IMO.

[streamer45]

Maximum by Trump!

[DeanH]

very nice max by Trump

[the lone wolf]

It's all starting to come together for Mr. Trump at the right time...

[DeanH]

not sure if this has been posted before:
http://www.worldsnooker.com/statemen...snooker-wpbsa/

so it seems WPBSA/WS did try to sort out the clash before play was due to start:
http://gbtimes.com/china/ding-junhui...-sponsor-issue

[aditl]

Ding's reply in Google Translate.