2017 English Open

[Cue crafty]

It's arguable that dings foul gave no advantage, gifted his opponent 7 points and left a similar situation in the game with the pink taking the position the black was in over the pocket. keoghan had a chance decided to take it on over opting to pursue a tactical position, missed and lost the frame from that error. The only question now with Ding admitting it was deliberate is was that ungentlemanly? In my view to a lesser opponent yes, against Ronnie? no ROS would probably have smiled and appreciated but against Selby?? If the referee had pulled him on it there would have been no advantage either as it would require further warnings to receive any penalty.

[JimMalone]

It's arguable that dings foul gave no advantage, gifted his opponent 7 points and left a similar situation in the game with the pink taking the position the black was in over the pocket. keoghan had a chance decided to take it on over opting to pursue a tactical position, missed and lost the frame from that error. The only question now with Ding admitting it was deliberate is was that ungentlemanly? In my view to a lesser opponent yes, against Ronnie? no ROS would probably have smiled and appreciated but against Selby?? If the referee had pulled him on it there would have been no advantage either as it would require further warnings to receive any penalty.

I don't think Ding gained an advantage here, but still I think making a deliberate foul isn't the correct etiquette. But I wouldn't call it scandalous.

[Cue crafty]

I don't think Ding gained an advantage here, but still I think making a deliberate foul isn't the correct etiquette. But I wouldn't call it scandalous.

Then we agree Jim. I see this as a slip in the level of sportsmanship in the game, I don't blame Ding in a way for doing what he did, but I would have been more guarded on what I said, along the lines " the red/pink ball plant looked close but I wasn't sure it would pot the black" ... Not a lie, quite plausible, but also would protect his opponent from feeling slightly disrespected.

[thommo335]

The ROS situation is really ubuesque.....that he wears special shoes because he's injured, why not, but come on....don't tell me you can't find a pair of black trainers out there! At least he could do some effort to find something discret...
Like Willo said on Twitter, how many players could get away wearing this stuff?

Mark Williams has a short memory. ....I saw him playing in slippers at the UK in Preston many years ago, similar story if I recall due to an ankle problem.

[SnookerFan]

It's arguable that dings foul gave no advantage, gifted his opponent 7 points and left a similar situation in the game with the pink taking the position the black was in over the pocket. keoghan had a chance decided to take it on over opting to pursue a tactical position, missed and lost the frame from that error. The only question now with Ding admitting it was deliberate is was that ungentlemanly? In my view to a lesser opponent yes, against Ronnie? no ROS would probably have smiled and appreciated but against Selby?? If the referee had pulled him on it there would have been no advantage either as it would require further warnings to receive any penalty.

Imagine he'd done it against Murphy. He'd have called over the tournament director.

[JimMalone]

Liang Wenbo - Yan Bingtao and Stuart Bingham - Hossein Vafaei are surely two third-round-matches to look forward to tomorrow.

[JimMalone]

Michael White leads Ding Junhui 3:0.

[Dave Walton]

It's arguable that dings foul gave no advantage, gifted his opponent 7 points and left a similar situation in the game with the pink taking the position the black was in over the pocket. keoghan had a chance decided to take it on over opting to pursue a tactical position, missed and lost the frame from that error. The only question now with Ding admitting it was deliberate is was that ungentlemanly? In my view to a lesser opponent yes, against Ronnie? no ROS would probably have smiled and appreciated but against Selby?? If the referee had pulled him on it there would have been no advantage either as it would require further warnings to receive any penalty.

Imagine he'd done it against Murphy. He'd have called over the tournament director.

Yes but Murphy is a knob!

[JimMalone]

James Wattana, who hadn't won a match this season before this tournament, upsets Ali Carter 4-3 to reach the third round. There the 47-year old will meet the just 17-year old Yuan Sijun now in a duel of generations.

[JimMalone]

There are players of 10 nations into the third round. Don't know if that's a record, but it shows quite a variety.

[mick745]

Good to see some youngsters there as well. Hopefully this could be the breakthrough tournament for one of them.

[Cue crafty]

Imagine he'd done it against Murphy. He'd have called over the tournament director.

He'd have thrown his toys out the pram and soiled his nappy the fat faced puff.

[Ramon]

interesting matches , tomorrow!!

[jonny66]

What time do matches start today? World snooker says 10 a.m but Quest isn't showing any till 11.45 and that's just highlights from yesterday?

[DeanH]

yep matches have started already
http://livescores.worldsnookerdata.c...lish-open-2017
even Eurosport Player is not showing them yet, repeat of ROS/Davis match from last night.