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  • A few questions about World Championship Stats (some difficult) and 1 thing to cry

    Questions:

    1.-Is there a stat about which percentage, in Crucible, the guy that makes the 1st red makes a frame winning break? (opponent doesn´t come back to the table)

    2.-Is there a stat about which percentage of time , the guy that is leading by exactly 2 frames entering to the final session (9-7 in a best of 25; 13-11 in a best of 33) wins the match?

    3.-The guys that watch snooker a lot of time, about Jimmy White. What of these 2 is correct? (I don´t know, just I´m asking)

    a) He was really as good as Hendry or Davis, but his mind/bad luck made that he never wins the WC. But if we repeat these years 50 times, he in 49 would have won the WC at least once, or more than once. It is a case of really bad luck / weak mind

    b) He was good, but he never was a really top player, and he was under Davis and Hendry by far; and even other players were at his level, but his style of play was beautiful to watch, but he is not as complete as the really top players

    It is a question, just I´m wonder

    4.-What is the music that sounds when the players enter in semi-final or final just before the walk-on music the player have?

    A thing to cry

    -In Spain (where I am of), in Eurosport, after 16-15 in the Higgins-Gilbert semi-final, Eurosport left and put engine sport. The last 2 frames were not seen in Spain (fortunetaly for me I can watch foreign channels and I could watch them), but many people here are very angry about it

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    No idea about the stats. Snooker.org has a lot of stats though. Neal Foulds kept referring to a 'Snooker Almanac' during the qualifiers. No idea whether this is a book ir a website database, but it had a lot of useless (or interesting) facts. Maybe someone on the forum knows what this is.

    With regards Jimmy, no he wasn't as good as Hendry or Davis overall in my opinion. That said, he was as good or better than them in some matches. He was certainly better than Hendry in 1994 WC until the final session, and even then he should have won it.

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    • #3
      A few questions about World Championship Stats (some difficult) and 1 thing to cry

      the Crucible Almanac is a book (old school hard copy only )
      researched and consolidated by a historian who is also a member here
      Up the TSF! :snooker:

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      • #4
        A few questions about World Championship Stats (some difficult) and 1 thing to cry

        Eurosport Europe did leave the broadcast so I understand but British Eurosport did not phew
        Up the TSF! :snooker:

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        • #5
          Yeah, it wasn't a big deal for me to just watch the finish online, but it was a pathetic decision and a real slap in the face for every snooker fan on the continent who had no other way of seeing the most important part of the match. What's the point of showing hundreds of hours of snooker throughout the season if they are going to drop the last two frames of the World Championship semi-final and show an "engine sport", as cesard says, which I assume must be significantly less popular and probably not at a key stage of the season. I just hate it when stupid decisions like that are made, and without any valid excuse. :frown:

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by cesard View Post
            Questions:

            2.-Is there a stat about which percentage of time , the guy that is leading by exactly 2 frames entering to the final session (9-7 in a best of 25; 13-11 in a best of 33) wins the match?
            There have been 154 best-of-25 matches at the Crucible where one player led 9-7; that player won 114 of them, so 74%

            There have been 9 best-of-33 matches at the Crucible where one player led 13-11; that player won 5 of them, so 55%

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            • #7
              Originally Posted by cesard View Post
              4.-What is the music that sounds when the players enter in semi-final or final just before the walk-on music the player have?
              This song? S-Express

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by Mark187187 View Post
                No idea about the stats. Snooker.org has a lot of stats though. Neal Foulds kept referring to a 'Snooker Almanac' during the qualifiers. No idea whether this is a book ir a website database, but it had a lot of useless (or interesting) facts. Maybe someone on the forum knows what this is.

                With regards Jimmy, no he wasn't as good as Hendry or Davis overall in my opinion. That said, he was as good or better than them in some matches. He was certainly better than Hendry in 1994 WC until the final session, and even then he should have won it.
                Interesting opinion. Yep, it showsm me that according times things change, like Higgins-Trump situation in both finals, regardless who is going to win this one

                Originally Posted by DeanH View Post
                the Crucible Almanac is a book (old school hard copy only )
                researched and consolidated by a historian who is also a member here
                Thanks to him I´ve found out this forum

                Originally Posted by Odrl View Post
                Yeah, it wasn't a big deal for me to just watch the finish online, but it was a pathetic decision and a real slap in the face for every snooker fan on the continent who had no other way of seeing the most important part of the match. What's the point of showing hundreds of hours of snooker throughout the season if they are going to drop the last two frames of the World Championship semi-final and show an "engine sport", as cesard says, which I assume must be significantly less popular and probably not at a key stage of the season. I just hate it when stupid decisions like that are made, and without any valid excuse. :frown:
                What country are you from? I see that is not only in Spain there, because in my country these sports are very popular, and there is no culture of sport due to 2 reasons:

                1.-Football is incredibly important here, and also helps that these 2 huge clubs that dominated Europe are from here

                2.-There is no culture of other sports. For example, most people even don´t know what cricket is

                Originally Posted by AndrewB View Post
                There have been 154 best-of-25 matches at the Crucible where one player led 9-7; that player won 114 of them, so 74%

                There have been 9 best-of-33 matches at the Crucible where one player led 13-11; that player won 5 of them, so 55%
                Interesting stat. It seems best-of-33 is very short to give an idea that how much is this advantage. Also, players must have less difference if both have played more frames to reach this point

                Originally Posted by Delphiwizard View Post
                This song? S-Express
                Thank you. It seems that only the part that is used in the presentation is liked by me

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