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  • Crucible 2008 – potential milestones

    Here is The Statman's annual preview of some milestone stats that could occur this year. If you have any other bizarre requests for facts and figures, post them here and I'll try to answer them!

    MATCHES
    Steve Davis will play his 80th Crucible match in the first round; Stephen Hendry needs to reach the semis to match this. Of this year's field, Ronnie O'Sullivan is next on 47 currently.

    Hendry is top of matches won, currently on 61 – Davis could leapfrog him if he wins the title; he's on 58 at the moment. O'Sullivan is next on 33, out of this year's bunch.

    FRAMES
    Davis will clock up 1600 Crucible frames unless he loses 10-0 in the first round. Hendry needs to play 19 this year to make 1600. O'Sullivan could leapfrog Terry Griffiths's total of 999 if he reaches the final and scores at least 12 frames in it.

    Hendry needs to reach the final and win 9 frames in it to win his 1000th Crucible frame. Next is Davis, who would reach 999 if he wins the title.

    Steve Davis could win his 1000th World Championship frame (including non-Crucible) if he wins 12 this year. He would join Fred Davis (1877), John Pulman (1179), Walter Donaldson (1111), O'Sullivan (currently 1073), Hendry (currently 1018) and Peter Ebdon (currently 1003). Ken Doherty needs 35 frames to achieve the same feat.

    PRIZE MONEY
    Stephen Hendry needs to reach the quarter-finals (first round loss would be sufficient if he claimed the highesst break) to make £2million at the Crucible alone.

    Mark Williams will become the third player (after Hendry and O'Sullivan) to make a Crucible million; the first-round losers' prize of £10,600 guarantees this. Others in with a shout are John Higgins (needs to reach semis, or quarters with high break), Davis and Ebdon (both need to win the title, or make the final and a 147), Ken Doherty (needs title and high break) and Matthew Stevens (needs title and 147).

    AGE
    The three men from China have a chance to be youngest world champion. It is the last chance for Ding Junhui and Liang Wenbo – Ding would be 21 years 34 days if he lifts the trophy on 5 May, which would beat Hendry's record by 72 days; while Liang is seven days older than Ding. Liu Chuang would have three further opportunities.

    Liu Chuang becomes the 4th 17-year-old to appear at the Crucible (after Hendry, O'Sullivan and Judd Trump). He and Ding Junhui could become the youngest ever semi-finalist, currently held by Jimmy White who was 20 years 9 days on the first day of his 1982 semi.

    If O'Sullivan were to win the title, he would be the oldest since Joe Johnson 22 years ago. Others, of course, could also do this.

    Steve Davis is the eleventh 50-or-over to appear, but if he were to win a match he would be only the sixth fiftysomething to prevail in a Crucible match (after Fred Davis, Eddie Charlton, Ray Reardon, Pulman and Doug Mountjoy.

    POINTS
    Hendry could become the first player to clock up 100,000 points at the Crucible, but, currently on 93,147, he will almost certaily need to reach the final and probably have many close matches and close frames.

    BREAKS
    If O'Sullivan claims the highest break, he will equal Steve Davis's record of 4 highest-break prizes (including where shared).

    If John Higgins could break the record of 16 centuries in the tournament, he would become the second player (after Hendry on 111) to make 100 Crucible centuries.

    In 2007, only two matches didn't contain a century – can that be beaten? Aslo, 23 different players made a century in each of 2005 and 2007 – a record that could certainly be under threat.

    Steve Davis could become the second player to make 1000 30+ breaks at the Crucible. He's currently on 987 while Hendry is on 1102.

    CRUCIBLE CURSE
    The curse is safe from being broken this year, since we do not have a first-time winner defending the title.

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    Thanks Statman for a mine of interesting info.

    I find it very surprising that JH is ahead of ROS on crucible centuries. ROS is 2-3 hundred ahead of JH on overall centuries (dont have the time to look up the exact figures at the moment)

    Do you have a list of Crucible centuries made that you could post ?
    "You can shove your snooker up your jacksie 'cos I aint playing no more!" Alex Higgins.

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    • #3
      Originally Posted by dannyd0g View Post
      Thanks Statman for a mine of interesting info.

      I find it very surprising that JH is ahead of ROS on crucible centuries. ROS is 2-3 hundred ahead of JH on overall centuries (dont have the time to look up the exact figures at the moment)

      Do you have a list of Crucible centuries made that you could post ?
      111 Hendry
      83 Higgins (John)
      76 O'Sullivan
      48 Ebdon
      46 Setevens (Matthew)
      44 Davis (Steve)
      38 White
      33 Doherty; Parrott
      27 Williams (Mark)
      22 Lee
      19 Murphy (Shaun)
      18 Hamilton
      16 Hunter; Selby
      15 McManus
      13 McCulloch
      12 Foulds; Fu; Griffiths; James
      10 Bond; Maguire
      8 Drago; Meo; Mountjoy
      7 Carter; Dale; Harold; Higgins (Alex); Johnson; Perry; Reardon; Spencer; Taylor (Dennis)
      6 Charlton; Knowles; Robertson; Small; Stevens (Kirk)
      5 Day; Dott; Henry; Hicks; King (Mrak); O'Brien
      4 Clark; Davis (Fred); Gray; Hallett; O'Kane; Werbeniuk; Wilkinson
      3 Bingham; Francisco (Silvino); Holt; Pinches; Reynolds; Virgo; Wallace
      2 Allen; Burden; Judge; Morgan (Brian); Robidoux; Snaddon; Williams (Rex)
      1 Ding; Dyson; Fagan; Ferguson; Gilbert (David); Hawkins; Henderson; Jones (Tony); Lines; Longworth; Mazrocis; Price
      Last edited by The Statman; 11 March 2008, 12:59 PM. Reason: table not working

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      • #4
        Thanks Statman very nice and interesting information
        Winner of crucible 77's 2008 Jiangsu Classic Fantasy Snooker Game
        Winner of 2009 China Open Prediction Contest

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        • #5
          Thanks once again Statman. Not seen any complete crucible centuries records before.
          "You can shove your snooker up your jacksie 'cos I aint playing no more!" Alex Higgins.

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          • #6
            Thanks Statman - as always, very interesting info from you.
            Winner of Crucible 77's 2009 World Championship Lucky Dip.

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            • #7
              "Steve Davis could become the second player to make 1000 30+ breaks at the Crucible. He's currently on 987 while Hendry is on 1102."

              What i find interesting about this stat, is presumably some person has woke up in the morning, presumably in a 1 bedroom flat on their own, sporting 1980's national health standard issue glasses, with a side parting, No-dad jumper, gone to feed their Python ( which they consider a good pet) and thought to themselves " I know what I will do today, I'll work out how many 30+ breaks Steve Davis has had at the Crucible!"

              Just appealled to my sense of humour

              Other stats there very interesting
              Its not how well you play its how good you look playing that counts!

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by archalf1471 View Post
                "Steve Davis could become the second player to make 1000 30+ breaks at the Crucible. He's currently on 987 while Hendry is on 1102."

                What i find interesting about this stat, is presumably some person has woke up in the morning, presumably in a 1 bedroom flat on their own, sporting 1980's national health standard issue glasses, with a side parting, No-dad jumper, gone to feed their Python ( which they consider a good pet) and thought to themselves " I know what I will do today, I'll work out how many 30+ breaks Steve Davis has had at the Crucible!"

                Just appealled to my sense of humour

                Other stats there very interesting
                Well, actually I have the figures for all players. And I do not wear glasses. ;

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                • #9
                  Statman...How do you acquire such stats??? They are not clearly facts that Jo Public could acquire or even have the time to accumulate?
                  Its not how well you play its how good you look playing that counts!

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                  • #10
                    Is it because of non cruicible frames won, that O´Sullivan has won more frames than Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry ? Alone in finals he is 125 frames behind Hendry.
                    ....its not called potting its called snooker. Quote: WildJONESEYE
                    "Its called snooker not potting" Quote: Rory McLeod

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                    • #11
                      Thank you very much Statman! Amazing info!
                      2007 TSF Pot Black prediction contest winner
                      2010 TSF Welsh Open Predict the qualifiers winner

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                      • #12
                        those are nice stats .thanks man.

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                        • #13
                          Originally Posted by Rane View Post
                          Is it because of non cruicible frames won, that O´Sullivan has won more frames than Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry ? Alone in finals he is 125 frames behind Hendry.
                          Almost certainly. He started his career with a 10-match run to reach the Crucible at his first attempt: when Davis and Hendry turned pro there weren't nearly enough professionals to cause that to happen. Another three the following year helped too.

                          On the matches played front, it is surprising to see, alongside the usual suspects of the three Davises, Hendry, White etc., Barry Pinches immediately behind O'Sullivan and ahead of Thorburn. He has slogged relatively successfully in the qualifiers, although rarely reaching the Crucible. Of course, someone could win three matches out of four year after year without ever generating any television exposure.

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                          • #14
                            Real good info. Thanks.
                            Who needs 'The Rocket' , When RaNeN is here!

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                            • #15
                              Originally Posted by The Statman View Post
                              111 Hendry
                              83 Higgins (John)
                              76 O'Sullivan
                              48 Ebdon
                              46 Setevens (Matthew)
                              44 Davis (Steve)
                              38 White
                              33 Doherty; Parrott
                              27 Williams (Mark)
                              22 Lee
                              19 Murphy (Shaun)
                              18 Hamilton
                              16 Hunter; Selby
                              15 McManus
                              13 McCulloch
                              12 Foulds; Fu; Griffiths; James
                              10 Bond; Maguire
                              8 Drago; Meo; Mountjoy
                              7 Carter; Dale; Harold; Higgins (Alex); Johnson; Perry; Reardon; Spencer; Taylor (Dennis)
                              6 Charlton; Knowles; Robertson; Small; Stevens (Kirk)
                              5 Day; Dott; Henry; Hicks; King (Mrak); O'Brien
                              4 Clark; Davis (Fred); Gray; Hallett; O'Kane; Werbeniuk; Wilkinson
                              3 Bingham; Francisco (Silvino); Holt; Pinches; Reynolds; Virgo; Wallace
                              2 Allen; Burden; Judge; Morgan (Brian); Robidoux; Snaddon; Williams (Rex)
                              1 Ding; Dyson; Fagan; Ferguson; Gilbert (David); Hawkins; Henderson; Jones (Tony); Lines; Longworth; Mazrocis; Price
                              Has Joe Swail not made a century at the cruicble?

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