Should Hawkins sue the WPBSA?

[Signal Fire]

Should Barry "The baby-faced assasin" Hawkins sue the WPBSA for loss of earnings & ranking points?

The decision yesterday to postpone his match at 9-9 has cost him thousands of pounds & points - and possibly even the World Championship itself.

He could well have had the momentum to go and lift the title after beating Carter.

O'Sullivan gets away with blue murder, yet players like McCulloch & Hawkins are let down again & again.

I suggest he takes them to court & tries to get re-instated in the competition.

[spike]

i like to think he has had a quiet word in Mike Ganley's ear as i know i he would've been the first person i would've wanted to see! i know it's a difficult situation all round and Ganley had explained this on the BBC yesterday, but it doesnt' look good on the game when something like this happens plus as a tournament director i would've felt very uncomfortable hearing the reaction from the crowd after they were pulled off!

that's all i have to say on the matter as i feel my blood pressure boiling!!

[Signal Fire]

This decision has potentially ended Hawkins pro-career. He could have won the title, got back in the 16, and on the back of that won a few Ranking Events next season as well.

Hawkins has a strong case for suing them for Millions potentially.

[cueman]

Surely this is just a wind up!

Anyway in case it isn't, this situation has happened at the crucible a few times in the past. Each session has a time period for which it needs to be completed, apart from the final evening session of the day. If the session is not completed then the players will be brought off the table and recommence after the final match session is completed.

Its not ideal but its the same for both players. There is always going to be one player who will want to stay on because they won the previous frame. You just have to get on with it..

[Semih_Sayginer]

Surely this is just a wind up!

Anyway in case it isn't, this situation has happened at the crucible a few times in the past. Each session has a time period for which it needs to be completed, apart from the final evening session of the day. If the session is not completed then the players will be brought off the table and recommence after the final match session is completed.

Its not ideal but its the same for both players. There is always going to be one player who will want to stay on because they won the previous frame. You just have to get on with it..

well said cueman.

i said as much yesterday on the discussion thread. its never ideal but it happens and the other scenario is having hundreds of folk wait outside for a frame which could last one hour, and then the table needs prepared etc....

not ideal, but the correct decision was made IMO, no matter how tough for Hawkins (who i wished to win)

[Signal Fire]

Not a wind-up at all - i feel Hawkins was robbed yesterday of becoming a potential 6 or 7 times Champion.

The knock-on effect of this decision could haunt him for the rest of his days.

Maybe the WPBSA wanted to make sure Murphy got an easy as possible draw?

[cueman]

Yeah whatever you say SF. Carter is a better player all day long and personally I'm glad he won. Thing is Hawkins had a chance to win and bottled it. Its not like Carter had one chance and cleared up and Hawkins never got a shot. Sadly though he didn't take the defeat well and is looking for someone to blame for his loss other than himself.

[Semih_Sayginer]

Yeah whatever you say SF. Carter is a better player all day long and personally I'm glad he won. Thing is Hawkins had a chance to win and bottled it. Its not like Carter had one chance and cleared up and Hawkins never got a shot. Sadly though he didn't take the defeat well and is looking for someone to blame for his loss other than himself.

though a little harsh here IMO

carter is better, but not by that much, and BH was visibly fuming when he came off at 9-9....and then again after he lost. not that he was guaranteed to win had they stayed on, but i feel your post a little harsh, though i agree with its general points

[spike]

momentum was with Hawkins, and the fact that he clawed his way back to a decider you would've of had to of made him slight favourite to have won the match! i can totally the anguish Hawkins felt and will play on his mind for some time to come!

[Semih_Sayginer]

momentum was with Hawkins, and the fact that he clawed his way back to a decider you would've of had to of made him slight favourite to have won the match! i can totally the anguish Hawkins felt and will play on his mind for some time to come!

i wouldnt have made him favourite at all. quite often the pressure shifts, as a player thinks one frame at a time, then its level with one to play it increases the pressure, and AC is a slightly better player IMO, so id have made them 5/6 each of 2

[hegeland]

Not a wind-up at all - i feel Hawkins was robbed yesterday of becoming a potential 6 or 7 times Champion.

Anyway, no new frames when there's less than 30 mins to the start of the next match - those were/are the regulations so nothing to say there. But I still think that when there's only the final deciding frame left pulling them off was the wrong decision.

[spike]

I cant see how you can say Semith how Ali is a slightly better player than Hawkins? I think overall they are both very evenly matched! With Regards to me making Hawkins a slight favourite to win the match when it went to the decider was down to the comeback he had made and the momentum that carried with it! I'm not saying in anyway Hawkins was a cert to win but it's a nice thing to have in your favour.

[Semih_Sayginer]

I cant see how you can say Semith how Ali is a slightly better player than Hawkins?

quite easy to say. its my OPINION. i think Ali is a slightly better player than Barry and i think Ali has underacheived.

[spike]

Yes of course you're entitled to your opinion Semith, just like we all are even it we agree/dont agree always makes an interesting debate!

[The Statman]

It was unfortunate and it was touch and go. However, the tournament rules have always been that a match will come off if the frame ends less than 45 minutes before the scheduled start of the next session.

If it had been the first time it had ever happened, and not been written in advance as a rule, then maybe he'd have a case.

As it is, it was 6:40, the frame could well have taken 30 or 40 minutes; they have to clear the auditorium of spectators, clear up, re-fill the arena before the next session can commence.

As it was, there was a queue of people in the foyer and stretching across Tudor Square outside the Crucible – and it was peeing down with rain. There is not room in the foyer for hundreds of people leaving and hundreds more entering, and patience as to prevail.

If something stupid happened down there and absolute carnage was caused, we might have been talking about more than Barry Hawkins's ranking points.

Oh, yes – and it's the same for both players!