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  • Rankings so far...

    Just to give some people a running tally of what is going on, here are how the rankings stand as of the end of 2nd round.

    1 Ronnie O'Sullivan 8000 49150
    2 Stephen Maguire 45526
    3 Shaun Murphy 45050
    4 Mark Selby 38325
    5 John Higgins 37926
    6 Neil Robertson 35350
    7 Stephen Hendry 34275

    8 Allister Carter 80000 34176
    9 Ryan Day 33876
    10 Peter Ebdon 32975
    11 Ding Junhui 32194
    12 Joe Perry 30425
    13 Graeme Dott 27144
    14 Marco Fu 27000
    15 Mark King 26000
    16 Mark Allen 25725
    17 Matthew Stevens 25413
    18 Ken Doherty 25119
    19 Jamie Cope 24744
    20 Joe Swail 24725
    21 Stuart Bingham 24625
    22 Mark Williams 23925
    23 Nigel Bond 23613
    24 Fergal O’Brien 22538
    25 Ian McCulloch 22432
    26 Stephen Lee 22219
    27 Barry Hawkins 22126
    28 Dave Harold 21494
    29 Steve Davis 21419
    30 Michael Judge 20826
    31 Anthony Hamilton 20813
    32 Dominic Dale 20688


    40 Liang Wenbo 17275
    80 Liu Chuang 10050



    Players in Red: Players who are out already and thus for whom the only way is down.

    Players in Blue: Players who are a round ahead and so have an elevated points tally.

    Players in Black: Still in tournament and competing in the current round in play.


    More stuff to follow...
    Last edited by chasmmi; 5 May 2008, 04:56 PM.

  • #2
    Who can be world number one?

    Murphy will be number one if…

    He wins the title.

    He is runner up to anyone except O Sullivan.

    For Semis he needs:
    O Sullivan/Maguire not in the Final.

    For Quarters he needs:
    Ronnie / Maguire fail to make semis,
    Selby fails to win Tournament.

    For Last 16 he needs:
    Ronnie / Maguire fail to make Quarters
    Selby fail to win the tournament.

    For Last 32 he needs:

    Ronnie and Maguire to lose in first round.
    Selby Fails to make semis,
    Higgins fails to win tournament.


    Ronnie and Maguire are in the exact same situation as Murphy except that of course Ronnie must better Murphy’s run and Maguire both Murphy and Ronnie.

    If Maguire or O Sullivan make the second round then the only other person who can beat them is Selby.

    Selby can be number one if he wins and:

    None of Murphy, Maguire or O Sullivan doesn’t make semis the semis. (Maguire would stay ahead by one point only!)

    Selby can be number one if he is runner up and:

    Murphy and O Sullivan go out in round one and Maguire out by round two.
    Selby can be number one if he reaches the semis and all thouse above him go out in round one.


    John Higgins can be number one if he wins the tournament and:

    Murphy, Maguire and O Sullivan go out in round one and Selby fails to make the final.


    Nobody else can be number one.

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    • #3
      Top 16.

      The top 11 are safe baring maybe a mathematical miracle ofor Carter to be caught.

      So lets start with 12th Mr Dott:
      To be mathematically safe he needs to reach the second round (this may not 100% be the case the the semi final line up would have to be Swail, Bingham, King and and Fu for anything to maybe change this.)


      If he goes out in the first round he will drop out if 4 of the following happen:

      Fu beats Ding.
      Perry beats Dott (which automatically happens of course.)
      Doherty beats Wenbo.
      King makes the Quarters.
      Swail makes the Semis.
      Bingham makes the Semis.
      Williams makes Final.
      Steve Davis makes Final.
      Harold wins.
      Hamilton wins.



      Marco Fu will be mathematically safe if he makes round two:

      If he goes out in round one he will drop out if 4 of the following happen:

      Perry beats Dott.
      Doherty beats Wenbo.
      King makes the Quarters.
      Swail makes the Semis.
      Bingham makes the Semis.
      Williams makes Final.
      Steve Davis makes Final.
      Harold wins.
      Hamilton wins.




      Perry will be safe if he reaches round two.

      If he goes out in round one he will drop out if 3 of the following happen:

      Doherty beats Wenbo.
      King makes the Quarters.
      Swail makes the Semis.
      Bingham makes the Semis.
      Williams makes Final.
      Steve Davis makes Final.
      Harold wins.
      Hamilton wins.





      Mark Allen will drop out of the top 16 if two of the following happen:

      Doherty beats Wenbo
      King Beats Selby.
      Bingham reaches the quarters.
      Swail beats the winner of Doherty/Wenbo.
      Williams makes the semis
      Davis makes the semis.
      Harold makes the final
      Hamilton makes the final.




      Stevens will drop out of the top 16 if any of the following happen:

      Doherty beats Wenbo
      King Beats Selby.
      Bingham reaches quarters
      Swails wins next match.
      Williams makes the semis
      Davis makes the semis.
      Harold makes the final
      Hamilton makes the final.
      Last edited by chasmmi; 21 April 2008, 06:01 PM.

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      • #4
        and some will be here.

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        • #5
          and will be here.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the post Chasmmi.

            Congratulations to Mark Allen whos top 16 spot is likely to be safe even though he lost today. A brilliant achievment to make the top 16 in only 3 seasons. I dont know who was the last player to do that but i suspect its only something the likes of Ronnie and John Higgins have achieved.

            Not looking good for Matthew Stevens, I think its almost certain one person below him: Ken Doherty, will leapfrog his number 16 place and knock him out - Ken looks to be a dead cert to make round 2 and get the points required i would say.

            Its a bit more unlikely any of the others will get the required points, but if they do it could push Allen back out aswell, and delay his top rung spot for another year.
            Last edited by dannyd0g; 21 April 2008, 05:36 PM.
            "You can shove your snooker up your jacksie 'cos I aint playing no more!" Alex Higgins.

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            • #7
              Originally Posted by dannyd0g View Post
              Thanks for the post Chasmmi.

              Congratulations to Mark Allen whos top 16 spot is likely to be safe even though he lost today. A brilliant achievment to make the top 16 in only 3 seasons. I dont know who was the last player to do that but i suspect its only something the likes of Ronnie and John Higgins have achieved.

              Not looking good for Matthew Stevens, I think its almost certain one person below him will leapfrog his number 16 place and knock him out. (Ken Doherty looks to be a dead cert to make round 2 and get the points required i would say)
              Thanks although actually with Allen he will drop out if both Bingham and Doherty wins. There are a few more less likely ways also, so he isnt as safe as one thinks.

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by chasmmi View Post
                Thanks although actually with Allen he will drop out if both Bingham and Doherty wins. There are a few more less likely ways also, so he isnt as safe as one thinks.
                Damn, thats true Bingham is closer than i realised. On this mornings evidence he is heavy odds-on to take Allen's spot isnt he, unless he collapses tonight or Davis gets a rocket up his ass.
                Last edited by dannyd0g; 21 April 2008, 05:42 PM.
                "You can shove your snooker up your jacksie 'cos I aint playing no more!" Alex Higgins.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by dannyd0g View Post
                  Damn, thats true Bingham is closer than i realised. He is quite likely to take Allen's spot isnt he, unless he collapses tonight or Davis gets a rocket up his ass.
                  It's more a case of if he beats Davis then either him or Swail has to go past Allen as they will play each other.

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                  • #10
                    Originally Posted by chasmmi View Post
                    It's more a case of if he beats Davis then either him or Swail has to go past Allen as they will play each other.
                    I see

                    You have obviously studied all this much more carefully, and in greater depth than me.

                    Glad someone is 'on the ball'.
                    "You can shove your snooker up your jacksie 'cos I aint playing no more!" Alex Higgins.

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                    • #11
                      Originally Posted by chasmmi View Post
                      It's more a case of if he beats Davis then either him or Swail has to go past Allen as they will play each other.
                      No they wont. Swail plays Doherty/Wenbo and Bingham plays Dott/Perry.
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                      • #12
                        Yes good point. Don't know why I thought that really.

                        So actually it is more a case of.. well theres an updated list in post two now

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                        • #13
                          Bingham maybe deserves a top 16 place but it would be great to see Swail in there again though. Would be the first time since 2003 since my three favourites would be in the 16.
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                          • #14
                            King on the brink

                            So close now for the Romford Godfather. Beating Selby will be extra sweet if it secures a Top 16 return for the great man. King fired up big time tomorrow. Just 6 frames away :snooker:
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                            • #15
                              Thanks for info!
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