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[dannyd0g]

I think that's the end of Drago this year. Does that mean he dosen't keep his place? Big shame if he dosen't.

It will be very close. I think he was ranked around 61 before this match. He could very easily be nudged down into the drop zone now, if a few of the low rankers overtake him.

[PaulTheSoave]

I have looked into the drawsheet first time, as i was short of time lately. It does not seem fair, is it not? we could have last round qualifier, Higginson against Selby and on the other hand Hicks against McLeod. The first one could even be a quarter final while the last one is nowhere near the local league! I know its all about points over the last two seasons, but there is something wrong imo. Recent form (last 6 months) is completely ignored by the system. The system should be overhauled. Last season counts, but last performances as well! Lets shake it up!

[rivercard]

I'm 99,9% sure this was Tony's last professional match..
I think it's certain he will drop out of the 64 this year, despite winning most of his first round matches. Such a shame he lost this match in the decider, I think he knew his main tour place is on stake, and the pressure was too much..
Although I hardly saw him on TV in the last 2-3 years, it's very disappointing to know he will not be on the main tour next year.. and as I don't think there's any value in taking part the PIOS I'm pretty sure that was it..

I hope I'm wrong, but the provisional rankings on GSC aren't promising to say the least..

[dannyd0g]

i think its about 50/50 rather than 99.9 % certain Tony will get demoted

these are the guys that could overtake him

A lot of them are already out of The China and the worlds.. But a handful of them could overtake Tony, with good runs in the Worlds and China (if any of them are left in that too)

60 Tony Drago 9,475 4,525 4,950
61 Jimmy White 9,375 6,450 2,925
62 Joe Delaney 9,275 4,975 4,300
63 Drew Henry 9,050 6,825 2,225
64 Paul Davies 9,013 5,500 3,513
65 Liang Wenbo 8,950 4,125 4,825
66 Lee Spick 8,600 5,450 3,150
67 Ben Woollaston 8,475 0 8,475
68 Ian Preece 8,350 0 8,350
69 David Morris 8,100 0 8,100
70 Tian Pengfei 8,025 0 8,025
70 Matthew Couch 8,025 5,525 2,500
72 Sean Storey 7,900 3,700 4,200
73 Jamie Jones 7,725 0 7,725
74 Christopher Norbury 7,613 4,663 2,950
75 Shailesh Jogia 7,538 5,050 2,488
76 Issara Kachaiwong 7,525 0 7,525
76 Liu Song 7,525 0 7,525
78 Peter Lines 7,400 0 7,400
79 Christopher Melling 7,050 0 7,050
80 Mark Joyce 6,800 0 6,800
80 Dermot McGlinchey 6,800 0 6,800
80 Alfred Burden 6,800 4,100 2,700
83 James Leadbetter 6,775 0 6,775
84 Paul Davison 6,600 0 6,600
85 Shokat Ali 6,451 4,088 2,363
86 Robert Stephen 6,100 0 6,100
86 Mohammed Shehab 6,100 0 6,100
88 Passakorn Suwannawat 5,875 0 5,875
88 Jeff Cundy 5,875 0 5,875
90 Paul Wykes 5,850 4,250 1,600
91 Alex Borg 5,800 4,000 1,800
92 Lee Page 5,650 0 5,650
92 Patrick Einsle 5,650 0 5,650
94 Dene O'Kane 5,475 0 5,475
95 Roy Stolk 5,200 0 5,200
95 Mark Boyle 5,200 0 5,200

[austrian_girl]

Paul, I totally agree with you there (lol, not even local league ). Let's not forget that Higginson has to beat Walden before playing Selby. The name Walden cropped up a few times as well this season, whereas in the other part of the draw Rory McLeod "only" has to overcome Tom Ford. However, the most "local league-ish" draw must be Lee Spick, Mark Allen, Rod Lawler, Robert Milkins . Compare that to Higginson, MacKenzie (didn't he play on telly this season, either?), Walden, Selby!!! I presume that a change of the world rankings would have prevented such a draw, wouldn't it?

[rivercard]

i think its about 50/50 rather than 99.9 % certain Tony will get demoted
...

I really would like to believe you are right, but this source suggests what I said earlier:

http://www.globalsnookercentre.co.uk...prov-ranks.htm

Feel free to prove me/GSC wrong, I would be happy if you could.

[dannyd0g]

I really would like to believe you are right, but this source suggests what I said earlier:

http://www.globalsnookercentre.co.uk...prov-ranks.htm

Feel free to prove me/GSC wrong, I would be happy if you could.

Interesting that GSC have different provisional rankings to World Snooker - the ones i pasted in above. It seems GSC have included all the China results to date, which is what has made the difference. And unfortunately you are correct, and things do look worse for Tony than I had thought.

[rambon]

Paul, I totally agree with you there (lol, not even local league ). Let's not forget that Higginson has to beat Walden before playing Selby. The name Walden cropped up a few times as well this season, whereas in the other part of the draw Rory McLeod "only" has to overcome Tom Ford. However, the most "local league-ish" draw must be Lee Spick, Mark Allen, Rod Lawler, Robert Milkins . Compare that to Higginson, MacKenzie (didn't he play on telly this season, either?), Walden, Selby!!! I presume that a change of the world rankings would have prevented such a draw, wouldn't it?

... I've been harping on about this for ages. There is a way to organise everything so that the rankings can be changed atfer every tournament, like they do in much bigger sports like golf and tennis. I think that's definitely the way forward (although if it's the way things are to go, I think Jimmy, Tony and many others would have slipped down out of the Top 64 already....

[chasmmi]

Isn't top 64 just a guarenteed saftey mark?

I mean players like Higginson, Penfei, Wenbo I thought were assured places on the tour next year so if they make the top 64 then 65th will survive and so on.

Or I think there's something like that at work.

[dannyd0g]

Isn't top 64 just a guarenteed saftey mark?

I mean players like Higginson, Penfei, Wenbo I thought were assured places on the tour next year so if they make the top 64 then 65th will survive and so on.

Or I think there's something like that at work.

Yes, only the top 64 are absolutely safe.

Below this, only the players in their first year can survive (im not sure of the detail exactly how it works). But those that have been on the tour longer than one year would be dropped.

[rambon]

Yes, only the top 64 are absolutely safe.

Below this, only the players in their first year can survive (im not sure of the detail exactly how it works). But those that have been on the tour longer than one year would be dropped.

I think you're right Danny, I think it'sd the Top 64 by rights, then the next 8 on the 1 year list (ie if a one year player gets into the Top 64, then those ranked 2-9 on the one year list qualify.

So after yesterday's matches, we've now got Cope vs Trump lined up in the next qualifying round, could be a cracker.

[snookersfun]

so Higginson (Leadbetter and Dunn) are off to a flying start:

Joe Delaney 3 Ian Preece 6
Mike Dunn 7 Liang Wenbo 2
Jamie Burnett 5 Paul Davison 4
David Roe 3 Passakorn Suwannawat 6
Andrew Norman 5 David Morris 4
Mark Allen 6Lee Spick 3
Stuart Pettman 2 James Leadbetter 7
Scott MacKenzie 2 Andrew Higginson 7

[pat39]

Here are today's results and latest scores

Mark Allen v Lee Spick 10-5
Andrew Norman v David Morris 9-8
David Roe v Passakorn Suwannawat 8-9
Jamie Burnett v Paul Davison 10-5
Mike Dunn v Liang Wenbo 10-3
Stuart Pettman v James Leadbetter 3-10
Scott Mackenzie v Andrew Higginson 6-9
Joe Delaney v Ian Preece 10-7

[pat39]

Andrew Norman v David Morris 10-8

[dannyd0g]

Scott MacKenzie v Andrew Higginson 6- 10
David Roe v Passakorn Suwannawat 8-10