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  • Mathematical group matters

    Mention was made that Ken Doherty has gone out having lost his first three matches.

    Am I therefore right in thinking, therefore, that it is mathematically impossible to qualify if a player has lost 3?

    I'm pretty sure it's unlikely but not certain that, dependent on other results of course, it is 100% impossible.

    Any advice gratefully received, since the 2nd round prediction thread is so long!

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    I believe it is possible to qualify with only two wins.

    Example: Ken Doherty's group.

    Consider the following:

    Results so far:
    Judge bt Doherty
    Walden bt Doherty
    McCulloch bt Doherty
    Allen bt Williams
    Williams bt McCulloch
    Williams bt Judge
    Walden bt McCulloch
    Judge bt Allen
    Walden bt Allen

    Hypothetical results:
    Doherty bt Allen
    Doherty bt Williams
    Walden bt Williams
    Walden bt Judge
    Allen bt Judge
    McCulloch bt Williams

    Walden - 5 wins
    Doherty - 2 wins
    Williams - 2 wins
    Allen - 2 wins
    Judge - 2 wins
    McCulloch - 2 wins

    Besides Walden, one player with 2 wins would qualify. Also proven that, Ken Doherty is (mathematically) not out of it yet.

    EDIT: A more pedantic reader could remark, that in order for Ken Doherty to qualify, he'd also need to have the best frame difference in the group of players with equal wins. Indeed. However, I don't think that's a problem. Ken Doherty's current frame difference is -6, in optimal case (two 4-0 wins) he could make that into +2, and it's possible (again, mathematically) for the others to have less.

    It's also possible (in another scenario) to not qualify with 4 wins, I'll leave the proof for later

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    • #3
      Originally Posted by zombieman
      I believe it is possible to qualify with only two wins.

      ...

      Also proven that, Ken Doherty is (mathematically) not out of it yet.
      Many thanks. I am right to hesitate before removing impossible pairings, then, as I suspected.

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