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  • Originally Posted by moondan View Post
    Fist for such a scientific guy, you fall over at the first hurdle, conditions have the utmost relevence in science.
    I dont believe these tables this century, they are as different as the nineties table was to the eighties table.
    Doesnt suit the less educated snooker watcher but its fact.
    and as I explained anumber of times, the positional side has got harder davis "they are just as hard as they ever was" BBC2

    The fact is, players adapt. If it was really getting so easy, surely Hendry would still be competing to a great level?

    It just hasn't materialised has it

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    • Originally Posted by Fist of Fury View Post
      and as I explained anumber of times, the positional side has got harder davis "they are just as hard as they ever was" BBC2

      The fact is, players adapt. If it was really getting so easy, surely Hendry would still be competing to a great level?

      It just hasn't materialised has it
      Originally Posted by In-off View Post
      It was 1995 when Higgins was the provisional world no.2
      Higgins and Ronnie were nowhere near what they were in 95 what they were in 2000+ Hendry turned pro 1985, seven years before Hig and Ron.

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      • Sorry for the multi post but something weird happened then, I didn't post 2 and I can't edit. Won't let me.

        Oh well....

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        • Actually, O'Sullivan says he played his best snooker as a teenager

          Higgins played his best from 1995-1999

          Again, I know as I saw a hell of a lot of it close up

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          • By the way, Ronnie would be embarrassed with the monotonous bile you throw at Hendry day after day after day

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            • And before that's all thrown back at me:

              I used to know Ronnie when he first turned professional at Blackpool. It was hard not to as he played pretty much every day.

              He was a nice lad then. His father had instilled in him the belief that he was special and a winner. I think that sense of certainty in himself and the wider world was destroyed when his father was put away.

              One thing was certain - Ronnie idolised Davis and Hendry. Davis was his first snooker hero because he was a winner and Ronnie was brought up to be a winner. In Hendry, he saw someone even better.

              Hendry and Jimmy White revolutionised the way snooker was played. The attacking style of Ronnie and co today is pretty much down to them.

              I'm sure the same argument about who is the greatest will rumble on but as far as I'm concerned all these great players deserve respect, Hendry in particular, for taking what is a very difficult game and showing us all what is possible with talent, skill and determination.

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              • I think you'll find Higgins was no.11 in 1995, hardly the player he was to become and three years off becoming world champion. In short, Higgins in 1995 not comparable to Higgins in 2005.

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                • He was the provisional world no.2 when he played Hendry

                  Hendry was the provisional world no.1

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                  • And to be fair Hendry's and White's attacking style and ultimately Ronnie's is down to Alex Higgins, the true originator of the modern aggressive game. The game never changed as much as it did under Higgins, Hendry and White were just perfectors.

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                    • I'm afraid that just isn't true

                      Alex Higgins made 46 centuries in his entire career

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                      • Originally Posted by In-off View Post
                        He was the provisional world no.2 when he played Hendry

                        Hendry was the provisional world no.1
                        He got dunced in the world championships by McManus that year, are you telling me that prime McManus would get that sort of result against the Higgins of recent years? I think you better quit before you look silly.

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                        • No they're your words, not mine

                          You said Hendry could never have slaughtered Higgins

                          I showed you a result where he had

                          You then disqualified it even though, on form, Higgins was second only behind Hendry at the time

                          Facts: they're annoying, aren't they!

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                          • Originally Posted by In-off View Post
                            I'm afraid that just isn't true

                            Alex Higgins made 46 centuries in his entire career
                            John Higgins has made more centuries than Jimmy White - even Steve Davis has made more centuries than Jimmy White but they weren't more aggressive. But it was Alex Higgins who initiated the shift from snooker as tactical battle to potting contest. I suggest you watch Clive Everton's "Story of Snooker" you will find it illuminating.

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                            • Originally Posted by In-off View Post
                              By the way, Ronnie would be embarrassed with the monotonous bile you throw at Hendry day after day after day
                              that is 100% for sure. and if asked he would say hendry is the best ever - in fact i believe he did say so in his book.
                              https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                              • Originally Posted by In-off View Post
                                No they're your words, not mine

                                You said Hendry could never have slaughtered Higgins

                                I showed you a result where he had

                                You then disqualified it even though, on form, Higgins was second only behind Hendry at the time

                                Facts: they're annoying, aren't they!
                                They're annoying when you make them up! You're toying with semantics. As the result against McManus shows John Higgins wasn't the class of player he was when Ronnie pulverised him. You could easily say that Steve Davis could never make Hendry look like an amateur even though he handed him plenty of hammerings early in his career. The gist of the discussion is whether Hendry could replicate what O'Sullivan has done to other world class players so it's basically irrelevant what Hendry did to him as an up and coming player. If McManus could do that to him Lord knows what a modern day Ronnie would have done - probably have scarred him so much he'd quit the sport.

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