Grand Prix - Quarter-finals discussion

[Unskilled Fan]

It would be nice if he could. I really enjoy his sense of humour and I think he is very likeable.

[attilahun]

Judd is only 19 and maybe emotions got him. Lets not forget he was playing Ronnie and this was his first quarter in a ranking event, and in the end that is a great result for him and it really doesnt matter how Ronnie played....Judd played better and won.

[cueman]

Well Judd has practiced with Ronnie a fair bit so I guess Ronnie knows what he's capable of. The game reminded me a bit of Hendry vs Higgins in that both players showed too much respect for each other and maybe was the reason the standard was pretty poor. I would never really call into question a players efforts though, I don't think Ronnie has anything to gain by letting Judd win and surely wouldn't have bothered to get the match to 4-4 if his intentions were deliberately set out to lose. I can understand people wondering though why Ronnie was so poor today but it shows he is still a very vulnerable player who on his day can struggle as much as anyone.

[attilahun]

RONNIE LOST AGAINST TRUMP. To be honest I felt Ronnie allowed TRUMP to win. He made decisions that he would never normally make. Putting swerve on when splitting the black from high on the blue was just not needed.... He appeared to throw away opportunities left right and centre. It was almost like every thing he planned to do, happened. I think he allowed the young `19 year old to win for some reason. Since his "fatherly" performance with the young Chines he seems to be playing different when against a young UP AND COMING star... Its just an opinion but I would be interested in what you avid fans think. I did really only register to ask you all this question so..... ???

I think this is b*****. Trump won because, no matter how worse Ronnie played, he played better.

[noel]

O'Sullivan - Trump match today was quite amazing really.
I saw something I would never have imaged possible....
Ronnie O'Sullivan playing like all of us!

=o\


Noel

[rivercard]

Judd is only 19 and maybe emotions got him. Lets not forget he was playing Ronnie and this was his first quarter in a ranking event, and in the end that is a great result for him and it really doesnt matter how Ronnie played....Judd played better and won.

I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I didn't say Trump can play better than he has today because he didn't desereve to win (Ronnie surely didn't, but that doesn't matter either). I know it doesn't matter for Trump how his opponent played, but it does matter for me, because I wanted to see a slightly higher quality match. It was still exciting though, I just like it more when both players are at least near their best.

[cueman]

O'Sullivan - Trump match today was quite amazing really.
I saw something I would never have imaged possible....
Ronnie O'Sullivan playing like all of us!

=o\


Noel

Well perhaps not all, I'd take grave exception to that, even I couldn't play that crap if I tried

Just a word about Davis too, shame to see him lose out on a fluke in his match against Carter. He didn't look to happy at the end, not surprising really, Carter was there for the taking and who knows what would have happened if he took it to a decider.

[João]

RONNIE LOST AGAINST TRUMP. To be honest I felt Ronnie allowed TRUMP to win. He made decisions that he would never normally make. Putting swerve on when splitting the black from high on the blue was just not needed.... He appeared to throw away opportunities left right and centre. It was almost like every thing he planned to do, happened. I think he allowed the young `19 year old to win for some reason. Since his "fatherly" performance with the young Chines he seems to be playing different when against a young UP AND COMING star... Its just an opinion but I would be interested in what you avid fans think. I did really only register to ask you all this question so..... ???

Fanboy alert. Yeah of course if Ronnie loses he does it on purpose because he would never lose if he didn't want to!

*sigh*

[rivercard]

RONNIE LOST AGAINST TRUMP. To be honest I felt Ronnie allowed TRUMP to win. He made decisions that he would never normally make. Putting swerve on when splitting the black from high on the blue was just not needed.... He appeared to throw away opportunities left right and centre. It was almost like every thing he planned to do, happened. I think he allowed the young `19 year old to win for some reason. Since his "fatherly" performance with the young Chines he seems to be playing different when against a young UP AND COMING star... Its just an opinion but I would be interested in what you avid fans think. I did really only register to ask you all this question so..... ???

No, this is not the case in my opinion. Ronnie just had an off day, it's not that rare to be honest.

[tallguy]

What was Trump's highest break of the match ? Was it some 60 odd ? Anyway well done. He deserved to win, no doubt.

[gby4]

Did anybody see the Davis-Carter match? I only followed the live score and it looked like there was some tense safety play going on, so Davis had at least a chance to take it to the decider. Or was it just both players making a lot of mistakes?

[Monique]

Well Judd has practiced with Ronnie a fair bit so I guess Ronnie knows what he's capable of. The game reminded me a bit of Hendry vs Higgins in that both players showed too much respect for each other and maybe was the reason the standard was pretty poor. I would never really call into question a players efforts though, I don't think Ronnie has anything to gain by letting Judd win and surely wouldn't have bothered to get the match to 4-4 if his intentions were deliberately set out to lose. I can understand people wondering though why Ronnie was so poor today but it shows he is still a very vulnerable player who on his day can struggle as much as anyone.

I totally subscribe to this. Ronnie has been saying again and again he wasn't feeling confortable with his game, that he was making to many unforced errors. It was true but nobody would listen as he was winning. Yesterday he repeated it again. That he was not hitting form consistently. Today he really wasn't in touch and Judd punished him.
All praise to the young lad for holding himself together and win it. Well done Judd.

[daoc2006]

I am very pleased Judd won to be honest because now it opens up the draw massively. There is always a chance with Ronnie in his matches he wins easily and its really dull to see a player win 5-1 or 5-0. Also a good final will be guaranteed now O'Sullivan is gone. In finals it is fairly common to see Ronnie just run away with it and a early finish is never something I like to see.

I dont know about you but that win for Trump will really spark him off. Now a possible winner of the tournament.

But even more so. In a way I wouldnt be surprised at all the winner of Higgins vs Ding goes on to win the tournament.

[attilahun]

Did anybody see the Davis-Carter match? I only followed the live score and it looked like there was some tense safety play going on, so Davis had at least a chance to take it to the decider. Or was it just both players making a lot of mistakes?

According to GSC Carter won the last frame with a break of 99...so ....no chance for Steve to force a decider

[cueman]

carter fluked a red off a safety shot and cleared up with 99, Davis didn't have a scoring chance in that frame. Unlucky to lose from a fluke but Carter did well to clear up though the reds were split lovely.