King v White discussion thread

[Looki]

because king dances you complain? no wonder snooker is dying and the fans its kept are as boring as the players!

If you're referring to my comment it was "tongue-in-cheek" -stuff..

[gerbisto]

If you're referring to my comment it was "tongue-in-cheek" -stuff..

Thank God!

[Odrl]

Also, who would try the black Jimmy tried (and potted but scratched) from today's players? Noone.

It's a bit ironic, but I have a strong suspicion that Liang would have played that shot as well.

[gerbisto]

It's a bit ironic, but I have a strong suspicion that Liang would have played that shot as well.

In fact I really like that player for that. However, recently, cyborg Shaun Murphy said "He needs to improve his safey and stop playing silly shots."

Since then he has followed the advice, and let me admit, he is winning more but the people continue to see the same cyborg with a different face.

Hearn needs to create some sort of system where the game becomes more attractive.

How about 10 points for a red potted from the baulk if below the blue spot?

20 points for a plant, 30 for a 3 ball plant, 40 for a 4 ball etc????

[gerbisto]

In fact I really like that player for that. However, recently, cyborg Shaun Murphy said "He needs to improve his safey and stop playing silly shots."

Since then he has followed the advice, and let me admit, he is winning more but the people continue to see the same cyborg with a different face.

Hearn needs to create some sort of system where the game becomes more attractive.

How about 10 points for a red potted from the baulk if below the blue spot?

20 points for a plant, 30 for a 3 ball plant, 40 for a 4 ball etc????

Look at this video at 00:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTHP...eature=related

Dosen't he deserve 20 points? With 20 points even Peter Ebdon would try this, you wouldn't need maverick players like Alex

[Odrl]

Look at this video at 00:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTHP...eature=related

Dosen't he deserve 20 points? With 20 points even Peter Ebdon would try this, you wouldn't need maverick players like Alex

That's a great shot.

But no, it doesn't deserve 20 points. It does deserve what it got though, the reds spread all over the table and a chance for a big break. You still need to score after getting a great opener.

[gerbisto]

In fact I really like that player for that. However, recently, cyborg Shaun Murphy said "He needs to improve his safey and stop playing silly shots."

Since then he has followed the advice, and let me admit, he is winning more but the people continue to see the same cyborg with a different face.

Hearn needs to create some sort of system where the game becomes more attractive.

How about 10 points for a red potted from the baulk if below the blue spot?

20 points for a plant, 30 for a 3 ball plant, 40 for a 4 ball etc????

That's a great shot.

But no, it doesn't deserve 20 points. It does deserve what it got though, the reds spread all over the table and a chance for a big break. You still need to score after getting a great opener.

OK let me rephrase, wouldn't 20 points for that make everyone go for these shots and make snooker more exciting?

[ja.]

What I'm afraid is that those who have never watched snooker before and decided to do it yesterday won't be doing it again. So no favors done there...

but how would they tell if last nights match was poor standard if they have nothing to compare it to. they might think thats how it should be and might even like it. they will be disappointed later when they find out that some people can actually make back to back centuries and some even maximums

[gerbisto]

but how would they tell if last nights match was poor standard if they have nothing to compare it to. they might think thats how it should be and might even like it. they will be disappointed later when they find out that some people can actually make back to back centuries and some even maximums

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ..............

With today's standards centuries have become a common occurence. Players taking risks, making Jimmy's facial expressions and drawing that support from the crowd have become an absolute rarity

I prefer watching Jimmy miss than Ebdon or Murphy pot

[missneworleans]

LOL misses are quite funny sometimes...but thats too angry
if it is a good pot it doesnt matter who made it

[Looki]

but how would they tell if last nights match was poor standard if they have nothing to compare it to. they might think thats how it should be and might even like it. they will be disappointed later when they find out that some people can actually make back to back centuries and some even maximums

maybe, maybe.. but what I'm afraid they didn't find it very attractive and exciting. and if someone liked it, hopefully he/she doesn't watch ronnie next

[Odrl]

OK let me rephrase, wouldn't 20 points for that make everyone go for these shots and make snooker more exciting?

It would completely change the way snooker is played. I wouldn't personally like to see the tactical side of the game disappear.

I really don't think that's the problem with snooker today. It has become more and more attacking over the years, much more than it was in White's prime.

[ja.]

maybe, maybe.. but what I'm afraid they didn't find it very attractive and exciting. and if someone liked it, hopefully he/she doesn't watch ronnie next

ronnies got enough supporters already, and to those who liked last nights match i would also recommend waldo

[missneworleans]

any one who like tight matches and comebacks Waldo is a good choice

[beechy1212]

Viewing figures will only tell something about peoples expectations, not their satisfaction. I watched it and watched it to the end, out of curiosity and because I'm hooked every time there is snooker on. But it was deadfull and painfull. I hated every minute of looking in the face of Jimmy who was totally gutted by his own display and downright embarassed.
BTW look here: http://www.sportinglife.com/snooker/...ers_White.html

In my eyes it was the wrong decision from the start and I haven't changed my mind about it. I would be more than happy with a veterans tour but not this, not in the Masters.
True King wasn't good neither but his task wasn't easy: the whole arena was behind his opponent and he got his fair share of distractions during the match. Not to mention that when your opponent plays really bad it tends to drag you down as most of those who play will have experienced.

Your points are all one sided. You are saying King had it tough because of the crowd but Jimmy had even more pressure from the crowd. The expectation was immense. The tension on him was nothing i've ever seen before. I've never seen an audience buzzing like that before. There was hell of a lot of pressure on White and he couldn't handle it IMO.

You also mention that King played poorly because White did. That's fair enough but surely your argument should be the same for Jimmy as well.

In an interview with the BBC, White also tells how he got frustrated with his game and was ''sickened.'' So no excuses and certainly no tantrums about being bored with the game and feeling sorry for himself, like some do. He knows its up to him now. He wont (and shouldn't) get anymore freebies. He will simply have to work harder than ever before.