Shanghai Masters 2009 - Qualifyers and WC round discussions

[Matt_2745]

Oops, I meant Joyce

[wildJONESEYE]

How is Judd's long potting today? Was a bit wayward when he lost to Judd the other day in Leeds.

judd lost to judd lol

[Matt_2745]

How is Judd's long potting today? Was a bit wayward when he lost to Judd the other day in Leeds.

[Mal]

Not surprised at either actually. Cope is clearly a very good player and was close to beating Higgins at WC. Hamilton hasn't been on form for a while now.

Harold started last season well reaching a final, but could hardly win a match in the 2nd half of the season, whereas Higginson made a few final stages and is well placed to potentially get in the top 32 with a few good runs.

[wildJONESEYE]

Yes, good stuff from Trump - that's what he IS good at - He needs more of that as it doesn't look like he will be able to scrap the game out in close frames. I'd prefer to see Trump come good as he is good to watch.

point im making is the same way experiance match players stopping todays youth comming through the same was of the 90s..

nothing has really changed in the last 20 years with standards..

[spike]

Quite surprising to see Harold and Hamilton trailing in their matches as they are.

[postman]

Having known Marcus since he was 12 I hope he holds on and wins as he has never really fulfilled his potential and one really good season could see him push for a top 32 place which would be some reward for his many years on the circuit.

[Mal]

Yes, good stuff from Trump - that's what he IS good at - He needs more of that as it doesn't look like he will be able to scrap the game out in close frames. I'd prefer to see Trump come good as he is good to watch.

[superaussie]

4-2 campbell the come back is on

[Mal]

thats the problam the young players have they are 1 dimensional and hasent got a second string to theire bow...

people say standards are higher these days down the rankings with brilliant young players Marcus Campbell being a pro since 1991 and he is making so called better players look like nothing.

Quite right - the game isn't all about break building and even with ability there is much more to it than just looking good! There is skill to the tactical side and Trump will develop that over time, but hasn't done to a high standard as yet.

[wildJONESEYE]

looks like 4-1 down...Perhaps one of those games where the older experienced player uses it to take Trump out of his flow.

thats the problam the young players have they are 1 dimensional and hasent got a second string to theire bow...

people say standards are higher these days down the rankings with brilliant young players Marcus Campbell being a pro since 1991 and he is making so called better players look like nothing.

[Mal]

looks like 4-1 down...Perhaps one of those games where the older experienced player uses it to take Trump out of his flow.

[spike]

Let's not write off Judd in this match completlely yet...many a player has come back from 3-1 down but in saying that i was expecting a better start from him.

Hopefully he can and will..

[wildJONESEYE]

as ive said before as yet ive not seen anything from him to justify his potential i was hoping he would kick off this season well with a victory over campbell someone he has to beat otherwise how is he going to win tournaments if campbell proving difficult ?

Match 49 – Mark King 2-2 Stuart Pettman
Match 50 – Judd Trump 1-3 Marcus Campbell
Match 52 – Dave Harold 0-3 Andrew Higginson
Match 53 – Michael Holt 2-2 Jamie Burnett
Match 54 – Jamie Cope 3-0 Anthony Hamilton
Match 55 – Fergal O’Brien 1-2 Ken Doherty
Match 56 - Barry Hawkins 2-1 Simon Bedford

[Mal]

Judd Trump is down 2-1 to marcus campbell and campbell at the table on a break of 24....

this is a important season for trump and players like campbell he should be putting away consistantly at this stage in his carear...

3-1 now. In my opinion Trump hasn't done enough in his professional career to justify his potential. He may still come back and win this match, but on the whole, his ranking event form over the last few years (one semi final) is good but does not give any evidence yet that he will be a future multi world champion. He'll certainly be a future winner of ranking events and top 8 player in my opinion, but consistency and all round game is something that isn't there yet.
He still has time on his side.

For Cope, he is still young and I think he is an excellent player on form - but he is now of an age where he should be entering the prime stage of his career so he NEEDS this to be his breakthrough otherwise it may never come. Doing well so far today.