Shanghai Masters 2009 - Qualifyers and WC round discussions

[wildhoney28]

Matt,I don't know why but your provisional is different than mine...Probably you gave too many points for unseeded winners.For ex M.King should have 1610 not 1960.but maybe i am wrong?

I'm just looking at the scores and i am very surprised about Trump,Mc Manus,Mc Culloch,S.Davis (negatively) and Selt,Campbell,J.Robertson,Wallace (positevely).

I did not see the scores since Tuesday.But finally i am home.After 40 hours without sleep, at hospital. But my little new born daughter Zosia is fine...Snooker lost this time...

Total Player Position
37160 John Higgins 1
30260 Allister Carter 2
30035 Ronnie O'Sullivan 3
29635 Shaun Murphy 4
28985 Neil Robertson 5
28235 Stephen Maguire 6
27410 Ryan Day 7
25435 Marco Fu 8
24085 Mark Selby 9
23960 Mark Allen 10
22385 Stephen Hendry 11
21415 Mark King 12
21060 Ricky Walden 13
20785 Joe Perry 14
20585 Peter Ebdon 15
20379 Mark Williams 16
20140 Michael Holt 17
20065 Barry Hawkins 18
20035 Steve Davis 19
19935 Ding Junhui 20
19890 Graeme Dott 21
19628 Jamie Cope 22
19484 Stephen Lee 23
19423 Dave Harold 24
19260 Judd Trump 25
18534 Matthew Stevens 26
17784 Joe Swail 27
17385 Liang Wenbo 28
16509 Stuart Bingham 29
16378 Gerard Greene 30
16197 Stuart Pettman 31
15840 Jamie Burnett 32
15503 Anthony Hamilton 33
15490 Andrew Higginson 34
14947 Nigel Bond 35
14822 Martin Gould 36
14465 Mark Davis 37
14248 Mike Dunn 38
14198 Rory McLeod 39
13897 Dominic Dale 40
13823 Alan McManus 41
13603 Marcus Campbell 42
13142 Fergal O’Brien 43
12792 Andy Hicks 44
12734 Ken Doherty 45
12729 Ian McCulloch 46
12540 Adrian Gunnell 47
12217 Michael Judge 48
11985 Jimmy Michie 49
11640 David Gilbert 50
11565 Jimmy White 51
11185 Rod Lawler 52
11173 Tom Ford 53
11172 Robert Milkins 54
10748 Jin Long 55
10597 Joe Delaney 56
10465 Peter Lines 57
10298 Paul Davies 58
10267 David Morris 59
10260 John Parrott 60
9915 Matthew Selt 61
9365 Lee Spick 62
9298 Mark Joyce 65
9255 Barry Pinches 63
9140 Matthew Couch 64
8940 Simon Bedford 66
8640 Daniel Wells 67
8615 Patrick Wallace 68
8590 Jimmy Robertson 69
8240 Joe Jogia 70
8240 Tony Drago 76
8240 Michael White 71
8240 Noppadol Sangnil 72
7890 Xiao Guodong 73
7890 Bjorn Haneveer 74
7890 Craig Steadman 75
7890 Brendan O'Donoghue 77
7890 Ben Woollaston 78
7755 Liu Song 79
7730 Li Hang 80
7610 Atthasit Mahitthi 81
7610 Lee Page 82
7610 Stephen Rowlings 83
7610 Chris Norbury 84
7610 Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 85
7610 Anda Zhang 86
7610 James Wattana 87
7610 Mark Boyle 88
7610 Jordan Brown 89
7610 Sam Baird 90
7610 David Hogan 91
7405 Ian Preece 92
7373 Andrew Norman 93
7330 Mei Xiwen 94
7180 David Roe 95
7080 David Gray 96

[Matt_2745]

And potentially, Ebdon v. Liang: I do hope Liang gets through to play Ebdon. It would be the reigning China Open champion against the winner of the recent Beijing International Challenge and the home favourite. It would also be interesting to see two players with a rather eccentric shot selection.

Hopefully no betting controversies either!

[superaussie]

nice one selty well done

[Odrl]

Huh, I know it's a bit early but I'm already getting excited about a couple of the 1st round pairs. My five picks would be:

O'Sullivan v. Dott: Doesn't get better than that in 1st rounds. Dott has a great overseas record while O'Sullivan has been known to be at his worst in China. When was the last time Dott lost to O'Sullivan? Must have been in the fall of 2004, if I'm not forgetting anything. I have a feeling Dott might take this.

Hendry v. Campbell: Ok, Hendry is obviously a big favourite, but this could be a bit of a grudge match, with that 9-0 trashing in the minds of both players.

Robertson v. Doherty: It's still not long ago since Doherty played some good stuff and was comfortably in the top16. Despite last season's awful form, I expect players might want to avoid him actually. It'll be interesting to see if he's got himself up for the season.

Perry v. Cope: A chance for Perry to get some revenge for that WC defeat against Cope. It's not going to be easy though, Cope is obviously on a high right now, and he's played some good stuff in China in the past as well.

And potentially, Ebdon v. Liang: I do hope Liang gets through to play Ebdon. It would be the reigning China Open champion against the winner of the recent Beijing International Challenge and the home favourite. It would also be interesting to see two players with a rather eccentric shot selection.

Still a month to go though, shame.

[madman]

Brilliant. Thanks very much!

[Matt_2745]

For those interested in the rankings, I've updated the provisional rankings after this week's qualifiers on my blog. As you can see I've added the minimum points etc from the upcoming events so as to give a more accurate picture, hopefully I've got my maths right!

The Boss will be pleased, Mark King topping the one-year list with those minimum totals taken into account

[wildJONESEYE]

Dont forget the 7 lowest ranked players will have to play a Chinese wildcard first!

Does anybody know if world snooker pays for the flight and hotel to China, or the Chinese sponsors. Or do the players themselves have to contribute towards the cost????

yes and these chinese arent push overs so campbell or any of the others could fail to make the first round...

[madman]

Dont forget the 7 lowest ranked players will have to play a Chinese wildcard first!

Does anybody know if world snooker pays for the flight and hotel to China, or the Chinese sponsors. Or do the players themselves have to contribute towards the cost????

[wildJONESEYE]

Damn it!

Really looking forward to Dott against O'Sullivan especially after the last few drubbings he has handed out to him. Also Hendry has a chance of revenge against Campbell for 9-0 if he gets past a wildcard.

dont think Hendry has ever played Campbell since that 9-0 drubbing .....

lets hope campbell wins 5-0 last time hendry became World Champion lol

[Alex0paul]

BTW Alex when Dominic Dale won in 2007 he was inside the top 32 at no 31 ...

Damn it!

Really looking forward to Dott against O'Sullivan especially after the last few drubbings he has handed out to him. Also Hendry has a chance of revenge against Campbell for 9-0 if he gets past a wildcard.

[wildJONESEYE]

BTW Alex when Dominic Dale won in 2007 he was inside the top 32 at no 31 ...

[wildJONESEYE]

With every single winner of the Shanghai Masters ranked outside the top 32 could we have seen this years winner playing today?

Although I can't see the winner coming from Campbell, Gilbert, Higginson or Selt but perhaps Doherty.

NO lol

1st Round Draw in Shanghai

Ricky Walden v Mark King
Stephen Hendry v Marcus Campbell
Peter Ebdon v Gilbert/Wenbo
Ali Carter v Andrew Higginson
Shaun Murphy v Michael Holt
Joe Perry v Jamie Cope
Neil Robertson v Ken Doherty
Stephen Maguire v Barry Hawkins

Ronnie O'Sullivan v Greame Dott
Marco Fu v Nigel Bond
Ding Junhui v Stephen Lee
Mark Selby v Stuart Bingham
Ryan Day v Gerard Greene
Mark Allen v Mathew Stevens
Mark Williams v Joe Swail
John Higgins v Mathew Selt

[noel]

With every single winner of the Shanghai Masters ranked outside the top 32 could we have seen this years winner playing today?

Really!?!?


That's amazing Alex.



=o|

Noel

[Alex0paul]

With every single winner of the Shanghai Masters ranked outside the top 32 could we have seen this years winner playing today?

Although I can't see the winner coming from Campbell, Gilbert, Higginson or Selt but perhaps Doherty.

[rivercard]

2 consecutive losses on an accumulator on one player. Dale this time lets me down - Bond needed about three snookers as well. Dale also lost a respotted black, the decider on the pink and another on the black. Gutted!, but credit to Bond for staying in and battling in the decider.

That's some win for Bond then, well done!