Masters - QF Discussion

[PatBlock]

Wow, 6 - 2 thought it would be much closer than that, and Trump was not at his long potting best today, so what would the score have been if he were?

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[Ronnie's tip]

Fully deserved win for Trump, though I'm pretty sure he's put some voodoo curse on O'Sullivan. They've played eachother twice, at the same stage of a tournament within 4 weeks and both times O'Sullivan has definately had rotten run of the ball whilst Trump has had a fair bit go for him (more at the UK to be fair).

Still, good performance by Trump but he was never really challenged to be honest.

[SnookerFan]

Ronnie was never going to beat Trump, to be fair. Trump is just too good for him at the moment.

[Deepscrew]

Has Ronnie retired yet?

[paddybhoy30]

If ronnie isn't willing to put the time in to play in the same amount of tournaments as judd or the rest of the young guys he will not win any more notable tourneys i don't think. His game is not sharp enough for the longer frame matches.

[Rane]

Unfortunately I didn´t have the opportunity to watch the match, but I would like to hear who of the two players had most support from the audience ? Was it 50/50 or do Ronnie still have the majority behind him in London ?

[Ronnie's tip]

Unfortunately I didn´t have the opportunity to watch the match, but I would like to hear who of the two players had most support from the audience ? Was it 50/50 or do Ronnie still have the majority behind him in London ?

Ronnie had the vast majority but to be honest he was 2-0 down within half an hour so naturally the crowd urged him on.

[Odrl]

I managed to catch the second half of the match on Eurosport, when it was already 4-0 for Trump. Is it worth seeing the beginning? Was is good stuff from Trump?

[stephenm2682]

i don't think ronnie was outplayed today, just the run of the ball favouring judd for the 2nd tournament in a row, he goes for shots, gets away with it, ronnie plays safe, catches baulk colours, even the blue.

i know judd is full of confidence but his interview after the match is cringe-worthy to say the least, and the total arrogance in stating ronnie would be winning tournaments if he didn't play him, is totally disprespectful, he's the player of the moment, but not anywhere near the standard ronnie as been at over the years. i'd of liked to see ronnie at 21 playing trump now.

[Ronnie's tip]

I managed to catch the second half of the match on Eurosport, when it was already 4-0 for Trump. Is it worth seeing the beginning? Was is good stuff from Trump?

Not really. The match never took off.

[PatBlock]

I managed to catch the second half of the match on Eurosport, when it was already 4-0 for Trump. Is it worth seeing the beginning? Was is good stuff from Trump?

You don't lead Ronnie 4 - 0 without playing 'good stuff' but as I said earlier, I've seen Trump in better potting form. So yes, if you get the chance to see it, it's worth watching IMO.

i don't think ronnie was outplayed today, just the run of the ball favouring judd for the 2nd tournament in a row...

Are you joking?? Did you see the score? Let alone the game?

...ronnie plays safe, catches baulk colours, even the blue.

That's not bad luck, that's bad judgement.

Come on, you can't put a 6 - 2 drubbing down to luck.

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[montoya10]

and the total arrogance in stating ronnie would be winning tournaments if he didn't play him, is totally disprespectful, he's the player of the moment, but not anywhere near the standard ronnie as been at over the years. i'd of liked to see ronnie at 21 playing trump now.

Now, if that's what he said, that's a very bold statement for a young kid.

Actually, I'd like to see 37-year-old Trump playing Ronnie now. With the kind of cue ball control he has, I'd be surprised if he is in the Masters at that age baring an invitation.
He's just 22, will surely improve his game, etc., etc.
Yeah, yeah. Whatever.
We have Ding, who is way above Trump in that department and indeed was when he was at the same age with him.
I mean it's not that I'm trying to take away from his victory or talent. But it's just a fact at the moment. Even Judd himself shows some sort of anxious body language at fairly simple positional play at times.
So, even if the sport is going to get a new Ronnie O'Sullivan from this kid, I can't see it happening in the foreseeable future, not at least he vastly improves his cue ball control and shot selection.

[stephenm2682]

lol no not luck, but ronnie was nowhere near his B game, whereas judd was close to his A game. i just find that judd thinks he's beating players at the top of there game and tries to 'big' this up in his interviews. he won fair and square, but it's an ageing o'sullivan.

Quote from world snooker. "He missed one or two early on, but apart from that I didn't really miss anything to give him chances. If Ronnie keeps playing, and avoids me, he will still be winning tournaments."

[147harry]

Snookers boring now, it's all about darts, that's where it's at.

[montoya10]

No offense to any of the players, I disagree with the idea that the field is getting stronger.
It isn't getting stronger. It simply becomes closer, which makes you think that there are a lot of players playing at the top level, whereas, in reality, no one is there.
Judd Trump has arrived at such a scene. Golden Four of the snooker are not anywhere near their very best anymore (and sure, MJW, World Number 2, and John Higgins, reigning world champion included ) and with the stars aging, he may be on his way to get snooker out of the chaos himself.
There are quite talented players out there, but all lack something.
Selby is a grinder, not the crowd attraction. Robertson is playing like the second coming of Peter Ebdon these days. Maguire has incredible scoring ability, but his temperament is not better than Ronnie's a single bit. Ding is clinical, but still, despite having improved in that aspect, fragile. Murphy is like the Jekyll and Hyde guy of this generation. Gets some good results under his belt and then vanishes. And Allen is suffering from depression, as well.
Other old guns like Stevens, Lee, Dott have all effectively left their peak games behind them., not to mention Ebdon, Doherty and Hendry, of course.
Taking all these into account, his boasting and high self-confidence may not be in vain.
He may well be on his way to domination, unless the younger generation of Liam Highfield-Michael White-Jack Lisowski could soon catch up.