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  • Thoughts on the first round.

    Slow afternoon at work. So I have typed out my first round thoughts and predictions.

    Knowing me, I'll get 0/16 matches predicted correctly. So feel free to mock.

    John Higgins v Liang Wenbo
    Should be an interesting match this. By John’s high standards this season, he has been poor. But Liang hasn’t lived up to the promise he showed a couple of seasons ago, when people thought he’d overtake Ding Junhui as China’s number one player.
    I’ve seen John start slow at The Crucible before, but then pull back strong in the second session. Especially in the first round.
    Prediction: Higgins 10-5 Wenbo

    Stuart Bingham v Stephen Hendry
    Stephen Hendry seems to have the ability to win in the qualifiers still, but isn’t the force in the arena that he used to be. He’s not helped by the fact that he’s arriving back from a promotional tour of China just hours before his match with Bingham. And faces further problems in that Bingham has won a ranking event already this season.
    My heart really wants Hendry to go on a run at The Crucible like Steve Davis did a few years back. But Bingham is no mug, and I think the first session will be too difficult for Hendry whoever he’d have played.
    Hendry may come back on the second day, but he won’t win this. No matter how much I want him to.
    Prediction: Bingham 10-6 Hendry


    Graeme Dott v Joe Perry
    Tough match to call. For no other reasons than he’s a top-16 player, and he plays well at The Crucible I’ll give it to Dott. Could go either way though.
    Prediction: Dott 10-7 Perry


    Stephen Maguire v Luca Brecel
    All the experts of the game have been pointing at Brecel for years as the next big name, and now he’s qualified for the greatest stage of them all. He’s the youngest player ever to play at The Crucible, and already he’s being compared to greats such as Stephen Hendry and Ronnie O’Sullivan. High praise indeed.

    Not seen much of Brecel myself, and look forward to watching this match. For all the hype, of which I am buying into, I think he doesn’t have the experience just yet. Many top players recall their first visit to the hallowed turf of Sheffield, and say they didn’t like it. I can see Brecel running Maguire (a top player don’t forget) close, but the last frame is always hardest to win.
    Prediction: Stephen Maguire 10-9 Luca Brecel


    Shaun Murphy v Jamie Jones
    Another big name vs Crucible debutant match. Jamie impressed in qualifiers, but doesn’t come with as much hype as Brecel.
    I don’t see Shaun Murphy having any problems with Jamie, but I said that when Murphy played Lu Ning at the China Open. Murphy was comprehensively outplayed in every department that night.
    The Crucible is different though, and Shaun won’t let lightning strike twice.
    Prediction: Shaun Murphy 10-4 Jamie Jones


    Stephen Lee v Andrew Higginson
    Stephen Lee has been playing with great form recently. Higginson hasn’t.
    Prediction: Stephen Lee 10-4 Higginson


    Ali Carter v Mark Davis
    Ali Carter has had a dip in form lately, the result of a dip in form and falling about out of love with the game. He did threaten to quit at one point.
    He played better in China, thrashing the aforementioned Lu Ning, who had played like an experienced top-16er against Murphy.
    But I’ve not predicted a qualifier win yet. It’s possible Carter will struggle.
    Prediction: Mark Davis 10 – Ali Carter 7




    Judd Trump v Dominic Dale
    A re-match from the UK, when Dale looked certain to take it before a couple of contenders for fluke of the season from Trump knocked Dale’s confidence.
    Problem is that Judd’s style is to play shots so hard, eventually he’ll get flukes. If he misses one pocket, he’s pretty much always on another.
    Judd is a confidence player, and will receive a lot of support from The Crucible. Judd likes to be told how great he is, and many in The Crucible crowd will oblige.
    I can’t see Dale getting over the demons from the previous match.
    Prediction: Judd Trump 10 – Dominic Dale 4


    Mark Williams v Liu Chuang
    Mark Williams will win. Never watch Liu Chuang play, so hard to judge a score. Either Liu will get blown away, or he’ll make it close and find it hard to finish.
    Prediction: Either 10-2 or 10-8 to Mark Williams.


    Ronnie O'Sullivan v Peter Ebdon
    Everybody will be talking about the match in 2005, but I don’t see it having any bearing on Ronnie here. Ebdon may have slow played his way to victory there, but Ronnie has always raised his game against Ebbo since, almost as if he has a point to prove.
    Ebdon just won the China Open, so will be full of confidence. He’ll make it hard for Ronnie, especially if he grinds him.
    But at risk of breaking the first rule of snooker predicting; “Never guess what mood Ronnie will be in”, I can’t see him being phased by this again.
    Expect a war, but one that Ronnie wins.
    Prediction: Ronnie O’Sullivan 10-8 Peter Ebdon




    Martin Gould v David Gilbert
    Gould will win.
    Prediction: Martin Gould 10-5 David Gilbert



    Neil Robertson v Ken Doherty
    Ken Doherty had a decent run in Australia earlier this year, but that’s pretty much all he has done for several season, barring the odd PTC run. Sadly, like Hendry, Ken-Do is another likable veteran that won’t win his first match.
    Prediction: Neil Robertson 10 – 4 Ken Doherty


    Ding Junhui v Ryan Day
    Was going to predict an upset, just because I haven’t predicted many qualifiers to go through and I have a funny feeling about this one. But I can’t do it. I just can’t bring myself to believe Ryan Day will beat Ding. Ding has previously struggled here, but he got over those jitters last year.
    A sixth sense is pegging at me; “Ryan Day may win this”. But it just can’t bring myself to predict it. No matter how much pressure Ding will be under from his countrymen to become China’s World Champion.
    Prediction: Ding Junhui 10 - 5


    Mark Allen v Cao Yupeng
    Don’t like Mark Allen. He’s a twat.
    But he’ll win this match.
    Prediction: Mark Allen 10 – 5 Cao Yupeng




    Matthew Stevens v Marco Fu
    Matthew Stevens has gotten back into form, but Marco Fu is no mug. It’s a real toss of a coin. Sod it. I’ve got to predict another qualifier win somewhere.
    Prediction: Marco Fu 10 – 7 Matthew Stevens


    Mark Selby v Barry Hawkins
    Mark’s the World Number 1, and will be trying to stop anybody over taking that.
    But, Selby pulled out of China with a bad neck, and on his blog admitted that he hasn’t practiced as much as he’d have liked. Will this be a factor, later in the game? Barry has been around a while. And he won’t have been missing practice.
    I predict a shock upset.
    Prediction: Barry Hawkins 10 – Mark Selby 8
    Last edited by SnookerFan; 19 April 2012, 12:41 PM.

  • #2
    Excellent and well-thought out stuff.

    However, Liu Chuang is not a debutant. He played O'Sullivan in the first round in 2010. O'Sullivan was on the way to an easy victory when he led 7-2 after the first session, but from 9-3 Liu won four in a row, including two tons, before O'Sullivan won the frame he needed for 10-7 in one visit.

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    • #3
      Somebody just pointed that out to me on another forum, hence the edit.

      I think the match was 2008 rather than 2010. (Time flies.) And I remember the match happening, despite not watching it. I'm old. I had a senile moment.

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      • #4
        Can we merge this with the other thread ?

        Let's have some structure to the threads during this world champs

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by peterpackage View Post
          Can we merge this with the other thread ?

          Let's have some structure to the threads during this world champs
          We didn't start a first round thread yet. It may be opened by tomorrow, I guess
          If nobody starts it, I'll be the one (=
          All the way Mark J!!

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          Winner of the German Masters 2011 Lucky Dip

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          • #6
            Agree with them all except two:
            - I think Hendry will beat Bingham. I would feel even more confident if Hendry wasn't currently in China (d'oh!), but I still think he'll win.
            - Cannot see Hawkins beat Selby. No way. Selby as Number 1 has a real point to prove. He hasn't lived up to that status yet.

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            • #7
              Yes, the Selby loss was one of my more bold predictions. I just read a blog of his where he said he only started practicing this week. because of his neck. Hasn't done any for a month. And has only been doing an hour or so a day.

              May well not come off, but I decided to make a bold prediction on a Crucible upset.

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              • #8
                goulds played pants for the last 5 months gilbert is an excellenmt player the gould will win was a bit bold in my opinion
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                • #9
                  Well, I've done spectacularly badly, haven't I?

                  The bold Selby prediction looks on, and maybe by the end of the day I'll rue not following my instincts on the Ding game.

                  Other than that, pretty shoddy all round.

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                  • #10
                    Originally Posted by SnookerFan View Post
                    Yes, the Selby loss was one of my more bold predictions. I just read a blog of his where he said he only started practicing this week. because of his neck. Hasn't done any for a month. And has only been doing an hour or so a day.

                    May well not come off, but I decided to make a bold prediction on a Crucible upset.

                    Selby is the worsted snooker player Ive ever had the displeasure of watching. How he ever made it to world no1 I’ll never know.....

                    Well I do actually. He has the most outrageous run of the balls. Every time he misses, which is quite a lot everything runs safe for him. Can’t stand watching him and his stop/start scrap a frame out style. Just hoping Hawkins keeps up his good work and puts Selby out of the 1st round.

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                    • #11
                      Absolutely ridiculous comment.

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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by dpcw_wsm View Post
                        Selby is the worsted snooker player Ive ever had the displeasure of watching. How he ever made it to world no1 I’ll never know.....

                        Well I do actually. He has the most outrageous run of the balls. Every time he misses, which is quite a lot everything runs safe for him. Can’t stand watching him and his stop/start scrap a frame out style. Just hoping Hawkins keeps up his good work and puts Selby out of the 1st round.
                        You don´t make 55 centuries only with run of the balls. Or win the masters twice for that sake.
                        ....its not called potting its called snooker. Quote: WildJONESEYE
                        "Its called snooker not potting" Quote: Rory McLeod

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                        • #13
                          Ok I may have over exaggerated it slightly to get my point across!

                          I have my favourite snooker players, Ronnie, cos he’s the king, simple! Trump as I love the way he hammers balls in and Robertson for his great long potting but I also like to watch all the other players except Selby.

                          Id rather watch paint dry, he's sooooo painful to watch, no rhythm or style even if he does make the odd century!

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                          • #14
                            He is methodical that's for sure.

                            The rankings don't show how good your best game is, they show how good your worst game is...

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                            • #15
                              Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                              He is methodical that's for sure.

                              The rankings don't show how good your best game is, they show how good your worst game is...
                              exactly, because at pro level all the top 64 can play great on their day, with not a lot of difference between their best games, the differences is how good is their B games, that's why there's a top 16 then the rest!

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