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  • O'Sullivan is useless against anyone in the top 7 or so in the world (Williams the exception that proves the rule). As a top level snooker player he's finished, and he has been for several years now, he's a glorified version of the Hendry of the past few years. He can beat the little guys around, the chokers, the has-beens and never-will-bes... but when someone who really is top class (real top class that is, not overhyped to infinity like him) and not a choker e.g. Higgins, Selby, Robertson, Trump, Allen he gets found out to be the mediocre, bottleless player he is.

    Maybe he can put in a half decent show, pull of a century or two to make the morons in the commentary box spunk a few times and give the cretins in the audience a reason to shout "come on Ronnie!", but as long as Robertson plays at least half decent like he did today he'll cruise through.

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    • Originally Posted by Cue_Seeker View Post
      Okay, you know what I think? Steve Jobs make billions a year, and I doubt any pros would give away billions-of-dollars-a-year-opportunity for snooker.
      So, indeed you are assuming that these pros will make equally selfless dedications under ANY situations. But keep in mind, most of these pros probably based on their decision giving up only a a few 10,000 dollars a year because their opportunity costs are low, because that's how much they would earn anyway if they were to do something else, many of these decisions were based on snooker generates a greater return and satisfaction for them. But the satisfaction only go so far when compared to monetary means.

      obviously you fail to think in terms of economics.

      What do you think Neil would've done in Australia if he didn't come here for snooker? probably low-end jobs, this is finding a way out for himself, there's hardwork but 5 hours of snooker a day is nothing compared to 10 hours of hard labour a day, 10 hours of snooker a day is nothing compared to 10 hours of hard labour a day. there's hard work but otherwise he would've had a worse life. This is NOT mindless passion as we all had when we were kids. This is different, I am helping you to see that.

      Many pro players go bankrupt very soon after they retire, why? because they do not have other assets or skills to make money and they still spend equally as much as when they were making millions. It is not all about sacrifice that they play the sport. Opportunity cost has a greater influence than passion alone.
      In snooker there are money opportunities but only at th top of the game, everyone else has to scrape a living while likely having a job, those outside the top 50 I doubt make a living from the game, if it was all about economics then there would never be billiards or squash pros, for example. If you think about it there aren't many sports that you can make any sort of quality income from, the passion must be there to do the best you can, and if you make money along the way then so be it, all snooker pros should aspire to be the absolute best they can and in the top 32 cases they make some sort of income from the game, plus Steve Jobs revolutionised an industry almost, and if anyone made that much money that they didnt need it all then its great for their public relations to give it away, win win for them!

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      • Originally Posted by Table_of_Reds View Post
        O'Sullivan is useless against anyone in the top 7 or so in the world (Williams the exception that proves the rule). As a top level snooker player he's finished, and he has been for several years now, he's a glorified version of the Hendry of the past few years. He can beat the little guys around, the chokers, the has-beens and never-will-bes... but when someone who really is top class (real top class that is, not overhyped to infinity like him) and not a choker e.g. Higgins, Selby, Robertson, Trump, Allen he gets found out to be the mediocre, bottleless player he is.

        Maybe he can put in a half decent show, pull of a century or two to make the morons in the commentary box spunk a few times and give the cretins in the audience a reason to shout "come on Ronnie!", but as long as Robertson plays at least half decent like he did today he'll cruise through.
        did u notice how much **** u typed, without any knowledge of the game

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        • Originally Posted by breakman16 View Post
          In snooker there are money opportunities but only at th top of the game, everyone else has to scrape a living while likely having a job, those outside the top 50 I doubt make a living from the game, if it was all about economics then there would never be billiards or squash pros, for example. If you think about it there aren't many sports that you can make any sort of quality income from, the passion must be there to do the best you can, and if you make money along the way then so be it, all snooker pros should aspire to be the absolute best they can and in the top 32 cases they make some sort of income from the game, plus Steve Jobs revolutionised an industry almost, and if anyone made that much money that they didnt need it all then its great for their public relations to give it away, win win for them!
          you said if it's all economics, there won't be billiard or snooker pros.
          it is EXACTLY economics at work that these pros give up other things to fight for a chance of glory/utility and money! Honestly, you are just repeating everything.... sorry mate this is as simple as I can bring it to you, I never knew such simple economics can be that hard to understand.
          Anyway, I will end it here and back to the topic guys!

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          • hendry retired sad day

            best player of all time
            but came at the wrong time

            for ronnie it must be a shock, now focous is double difficult

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            • Originally Posted by Cue_Seeker View Post
              you said if it's all economics, there won't be billiard or snooker pros.
              it is EXACTLY economics at work that these pros give up other things to fight for a chance of glory/utility and money! Honestly, you are just repeating everything.... sorry mate this is as simple as I can bring it to you, I never knew such simple economics can be that hard to understand.
              Anyway, I will end it here and back to the topic guys!
              i KNOW they do, that's what being a pro sportsman is, does anyone seriously think that any pro sportsman was out clubbing and having lots of fun with their mates while developing their skills? No they would have been practicing, at least if they were top of their sport, I thought you were trying to make another point? Sorry if I misunderstood you! I can see a Ronnie comeback tomorrow to level into the final session myself!

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              • Originally Posted by Table_of_Reds View Post
                O'Sullivan is useless against anyone in the top 7 or so in the world (Williams the exception that proves the rule). As a top level snooker player he's finished, and he has been for several years now, he's a glorified version of the Hendry of the past few years. He can beat the little guys around, the chokers, the has-beens and never-will-bes... but when someone who really is top class (real top class that is, not overhyped to infinity like him) and not a choker e.g. Higgins, Selby, Robertson, Trump, Allen he gets found out to be the mediocre, bottleless player he is.

                Maybe he can put in a half decent show, pull of a century or two to make the morons in the commentary box spunk a few times and give the cretins in the audience a reason to shout "come on Ronnie!", but as long as Robertson plays at least half decent like he did today he'll cruise through.
                you call an UNDER ACHIEVER but still one of the greatest players of all time a bottler? He's won nearly 30 ranking titles, the vast majority of people dont win 10 in a career, a lot done even win more than 1! You have NOTHING to back that statement up, most players would give their limbs to have Ronnie's talent!

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                • would like to see ronnie go through but something tells me robertson is going to edge it!

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                  • Originally Posted by breakman16 View Post
                    you call an UNDER ACHIEVER but still one of the greatest players of all time a bottler? He's won nearly 30 ranking titles, the vast majority of people dont win 10 in a career, a lot done even win more than 1! You have NOTHING to back that statement up, most players would give their limbs to have Ronnie's talent!
                    You've just been trolled :/

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                    • Originally Posted by Masterdoctorgenius View Post
                      any1 predictions for tomorrow

                      will the one frame make the difference like in the other two matches and start the self destruction mode of ronnie.

                      or will he show his champions skills and overcome todays emotion
                      I don't think O'Sullivan will crack because of one frame, he has too much experience for something like that to completely overwhelm him, unlike Higginson or Day for example.

                      But I'm still sticking with my initial prediction... Robertson is just an awkward player to beat at the moment, and when the pressure really comes on, I fancy him to be a frame or two stronger.

                      Looking forward to finding out...

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                      • Originally Posted by doorag View Post
                        You've just been trolled :/
                        I'll have to look up what that means, he's talking rubbish and for insulting one of the greatest of all time, that was virtually slander, I can't make a 20 break but I realise the immense skill it takes to play snooker at pro level, if he really believes that then that person doesnt belong here

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                        • Ronnie O Sullivan v Neil Robertson - Quarter Final

                          Got money on Neil to win the whole compotition

                          Matt

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                          • Originally Posted by breakman16 View Post
                            I'll have to look up what that means, he's talking rubbish and for insulting one of the greatest of all time, that was virtually slander, I can't make a 20 break but I realise the immense skill it takes to play snooker at pro level, if he really believes that then that person doesnt belong here
                            Funny thing is with all talk about players giving problems to Ronnie (John, Selby, Robertson), he has the edge in their head-to-head records against all of them.
                            All the way Mark J!!

                            I understand nothing from snooker. - Dedicated to jrc750!

                            Winner of the German Masters 2011 Lucky Dip

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                            • I believe Stephen Maguire dominates in head to head with Robertson so even if Robertson wins this match and semi he may have to face Maguire in final.
                              My deep screw shot
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXTv4Dt-ZQ

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                              • Originally Posted by davisskeggsm View Post
                                Got money on Neil to win the whole compotition

                                Matt
                                Ha. I did at 8s. But Ronnie has been playin out of his skin. Thank God I'm off tomorrow to watch this match *drools*....I have been backing Rocket all season and when I don't back him he starts to play like he did ten years ago. it must be the haircut - he even looks ten years younger!

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