Ronnie O Sullivan - Ali Carter - final

[debs]

ali has to win this session to have a chance

anything less would be too much

Take your point but if he stays close enough to Ronnie then the final session is what counts!!

[montoya10]

ali has to win this session to have a chance

anything less would be too much

If he ties the session, at 14-11, things aren't looking that bad for him, either.
After all, in any case, he will have to get off to a good start in the evening session.

That said, of course, at 13-12, he has as good of a chance as O'Sullivan, so, he'd love to win the session.

[debs]

O'Sullivan is also playing negative snooker if you think staying on the defensive side is playing negative. He has turned down numerous potting chances and with some sort of his lead on his side, he showed a tendency to keep the balls out of the game.
I'm not going to criticize the players. They both want this title badly.

Absolutely!!
Ronnie is playing the same game as Ali and a number of frames could have went either way so Ali is doing well! Think is this strategy is fairly new to Carter but not Ronnie and he is a little bit better at it at the mo, for me thats why Ali lost it a bit last night.

[Masterdoctorgenius]

ali has to win this session to have a chance

anything less would be too much

[montoya10]

O'Sullivan is also playing negative snooker if you think staying on the defensive side is playing negative. He has turned down numerous potting chances and with some sort of his lead on his side, he showed a tendency to keep the balls out of the game.
I'm not going to criticize the players. They both want this title badly.

[debs]

I dont think he played negative at all defensive yes, but not negative!

Why is Ronnie letting Ali dictate it anyway? why does HE not play his natural game? I know what you mean about rhythm but...???

If Ali can find the energy and strenght of mind to completely focus on channelling his anger into his plan of slipping in and out of attack defence he has a good chance!, but yes it is a massive challenge, and you are right Ronnie will probably win, but i do hope Ali does well and finds what he needs to take this as far as he can x

[attilahun]

Carter cant win this final. He has two choices :
1. to play his natural game, something he didnt do until now in the final. If he does that, Ronnie will be more comfortable and will get more fluent and will eventually overwhelm Carter. We all know Ali cant cope with Ronnie at an attacking game. And Ronnie will be world champion.
2. to play like he did in the first day. If he plays like that he will disrupt Ronnies rhythm but he will struggle himself because he is not used to that sort of negative play. The frames will somehow be shared between them, but like in the first day Ronnie will at least draw the sessions and that means he will be world champion.

[debs]

think ronnie will be too strong in the long run for ali , with a 3 frame advantage he will be hard to catch. I feel ali will need to try and gather some sort of rhythm early on in the third sesssion and try to just play the balls! i feel ebdon has got him into a mindset of worrying too much about playing the opponent and this is causing slightly negative play on carters behalf which is not really his style!Dont get me wrong you have to sometimes have a game plan when playing o'sullivan especially when he is playing so well but there is nothing ronnie can do sat in his seat if ali is potting balls and feel he is playing well enough to win frames in one visit if he can just play at his natural pace and game.Easy to say sat here i suppose and you could argue his game plan has got him to the final so should he just stick with it?? any thoughts?

Well Ronnie will probaby prove to strong for Ali in the end, but if Ali can keep with him and if he is going to lose his rag if he could somehow put the energy from that into the game instead of stomping or banging his head\cue then maybe???

Ali has done really well and i hope he keeps the faith that he can do it.

Has no one else noticed that Ronnie was turning down LOADS of shots!

So in answer to you if he can keep to his game plan absolutely yes! But it is a lot to ask of himself, so i just hope he can keep his energy levels up enough to play, as he has done so well!!
If he can just keep in mind his last couple of wins and apply himself like that he could give Ronnie a real scare!

[Masterdoctorgenius]

to be quite honest both played their worst session in this WC but forutnatly ronnie still won the session 5-4
as he has done it before he will gear up and hopefully will go with a signifcant into the final session
cant see carter winning really

yeah, last year higgins turned around a 7-10 deficit, but first carter is not higgins and the latter one was playing a first time finalist at the Crucible. judd lost it for me by taking on a missable blue along the side cushion with the rest to be 13-9 up. he didnt get it and lost 5 frames on the bounce. from there on higgins never looked back

carter isnt as clinical as higgins so ronnie will get his chances. neither will be happy with their yesterdays play but wont be too disappotinted. if ronnie wins the third session at least with 5-3 the match is virtually over.

carter did well under pressure till the final but his opponents didnt punish him enough. had he played maguire yesterday he would have snicked some more frames.

prediction: 18-11

[willtyson]

In case anyone missed Ronnie's 92 break here it is! http://snookervdos.blogspot.co.uk/20...d-snooker.html

[willtyson]

I think they are good friends and apparently the plan was to teach Ali how to annoy the **** out of Ronnie

I think Ali has indeed played a negative game so far in this final, which is not typical of him, he's usually a very attacking player. I don't think his tactics will work as it's not his natural game, I believe he should go back to playing his game...

That and attempting to turn him vegan lol

[dino]

What 's exactly the connection between Ebdon and Carter? I know he's "helping" Ali, but haven't why or to what extent.

I think they are good friends and apparently the plan was to teach Ali how to annoy the **** out of Ronnie

I think Ali has indeed played a negative game so far in this final, which is not typical of him, he's usually a very attacking player. I don't think his tactics will work as it's not his natural game, I believe he should go back to playing his game...

[quintahunter]

What 's exactly the connection between Ebdon and Carter? I know he's "helping" Ali, but haven't why or to what extent.

[doorag]

With enough luck it works...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq3zZbj8TDE

Yes and that's the problem. Snooker players don't like to rely on luck.

[Capelito]

It would be like poker players always going all in with every hand.

With enough luck it works...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq3zZbj8TDE