Ronnie O Sullivan - Ali Carter - final

[Wimm]

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Says it all.

[LittleMissAlexa]

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Says it all.

thank god ali wasnt holding his cue between his legs

[FOXMULDER]

If he wins tonight, Ronnie will start to pull clear of Higgins...

Ronnie
4 World Championships
4 UK Championships
4 Masters
24 Ranking Events

Higgins
4 World Championships
3 UK Championships
2 Masters
23 Ranking Events

[LittleMissAlexa]

If he wins tonight, Ronnie will start to pull clear of Higgins...

Ronnie
4 World Championships
4 UK Championships
4 Masters
24 Ranking Events

Higgins
4 World Championships
3 UK Championships
2 Masters
23 Ranking Events

as he should hes underachieved higgins has overachieved

[montoya10]

Wasn't Higgins also on 24? I thought so, but could well be mistaken about that.

[Ronnie's tip]

If he wins tonight, Ronnie will start to pull clear of Higgins...

Ronnie
4 World Championships
4 UK Championships
4 Masters
24 Ranking Events

Higgins
4 World Championships
3 UK Championships
2 Masters
23 Ranking Events

Plus O'Sullivan has 166 more centuries and 6 more maximums.

Saying that, this is jumping the gun a bit. Carter could make a comeback tonight, and I fancy Higgins to play for another 3 or 4 years atleast whilst this might be Ronnie's last appearance here.

[Le Ball Sack]

Would you say Ronnie and Higgins are a level above Williams?

[Masterdoctorgenius]

Wasn't Higgins also on 24? I thought so, but could well be mistaken about that.

yes he has also 24

[LittleMissAlexa]

Would you say Ronnie and Higgins are a level above Williams?

i would say so

[Table_of_Reds]

Cheat Higgins shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as any legend of the game.

[Ronnie's tip]

Wasn't Higgins also on 24? I thought so, but could well be mistaken about that.

If you include PTC's then Higgins is on 24 whilst O'Sullivan is on 25. Ronnie has won 2 events whilst Higgins has won 1.

Would you say Ronnie and Higgins are a level above Williams?

Definitely. Williams could have been in that bracket though, had he not dropped down 8 or 9 years ago.

I said at the time that 2010/2011 was a massive year for Williams. He should have won his 3rd UK and beaten Higgins in the WC semi final. That would have put him ahead of Higgins in the UK and level with Higgins/Ronnie with World Championships. He bottled both though.

[Masterdoctorgenius]

If you include PTC's then Higgins is on 24 whilst O'Sullivan is on 25. Ronnie has won 2 events whilst Higgins has won 1.



Definitely. Williams could have been in that bracket though, had he not dropped down 8 or 9 years ago.

I said at the time that 2010/2011 was a massive year for Williams. He should have won his 3rd UK and beaten Higgins in the WC semi final. That would have put him ahead of Higgins in the UK and level with Higgins/Ronnie with World Championships. He bottled both though.

from the big three he is the only one to held all bbc events (includind the grand prix back then) at the same time. only davis and hendry did it before. ronnie and higgins made only the double of uk and worlds.

i think after williams achieved that he got bit lazy and had no clear cut aims

[LittleMissAlexa]

If you include PTC's then Higgins is on 24 whilst O'Sullivan is on 25. Ronnie has won 2 events whilst Higgins has won 1.

if you include ptcs ypou woulod also have to include old minor ranking events the strachan open for instance

[montoya10]

but williams came very strong back

from the big three he is the only one to held all bbc events (includind the grand prix back then) at the same time. only davis and hendry did it before. ronnie and higgins made only the double of uk and worlds.

i think after williams achieved that he got bit lazy and had no clear cut aims

Williams at the very top his game in his heyday was on par with O'Sullivan and Higgins, if not better. But his certain period of drought dropped him behind those two in the consideration.
Still, if we are talking about absolute best, he isn't behind.

[Ronnie's tip]

if you include ptcs ypou woulod also have to include old minor ranking events the strachan open for instance

According to wiki, Higgins has only won 1 minor ranking event.

Higgins has 17 non-ranking titles
O'Sullivan has 24 non-ranking titles

That's including team events.