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  • If there's one word I hate in the English language it's 'cool'. What does it mean anyway? I remember the 'cool' kids in my year at school who sat throughout their exams looking 'cool' and not bothering to write anything down. Oh, they were cool alright and still are, you can see them in the toon at half-past nine in the black garter half pissed before they spend whats left of their incapacity benefit on the horses. Cool eh?
    Whoever said "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing" was an arsehole.

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    • Originally Posted by fateric View Post
      If there's one word I hate in the English language it's 'cool'. What does it mean anyway?
      It's a contraction of the word "coolheaded".

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      • Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
        It's a contraction of the word "coolheaded".
        Yes, but in general terms I meant. People who want things to be 'cool' overlook the fact that by making them 'cool' and appealing to a younger audience you immediately alienate 90% of the audience who are not young and 'cool'.
        Whoever said "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing" was an arsehole.

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        • I was just helping with a definition, but...

          The "show" has changed, thanks in no small part to Barry Hearn, entrance music etc. I've been a snooker fan since the 80's but I don't think the changes have alienated me.
          The game is the same, anything designed to attract a wider audience won't scare me away and I guess that goes for most people.


          Happy 147th post btw

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          • Originally Posted by gavpowell View Post
            What's the old saying? "If you remember the eighties, you wish you weren't there"?
            It was the 90's actually. The 70's I find hard to remember, The 80's weren't all that bad, if you didn't succomb to the fashion that is. Always been a biker, always wear my leather biker jacket, jeans and a T shirt, sweater in the winter and that's it, no airs and graces, no pretending to be who I'm not.

            That bloke in the Coventry City football shirt actually proposed to his girlfriend at the championships in front of the audience on tv, seems a very decent chap but who really knows going by just what he wears, and that is the problem for those who believe that smartly dressed people are therefore decent people.
            There is a train of thought that proposes that people who went through puberty at a school that enforced a uniform, can associate uniforms with sexual attraction, especially those who went to public schools and suffered ritual beatings at the hands of teachers, head boys and prefects, and indeed many of these public schoolboys move on into politics and the military where suits and uniforms and submission to leaders are wilfully enforced.
            I always have that train of thought in mind when someone says they like to see a man smartly dressed.............Dennis Taylor

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            • Who is this Brian Guy? A realation to Ronnie I gather as this is the Guy I was Talking about always near Ronnie and Normally there for Every Session!

              Brian the Guy I wanted name of.jpg

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              • http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/snooker/17879565
                WVandeweyer Photography - Trevor White Cues Photo Collection (site)

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                • That's right, a lifelong and incredibly loyal snooker fan but people condemn him because he isn't wearing what they deem to be appropriate.

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                  • Originally Posted by Ronnie's tip View Post
                    It's the overall presentation of snooker. It's a small point, but as I said the way to bring in a larger UK audience is by changing a lot of smaller things and when they're combined the whole game will look a lot more inviting. You can't change the game itself (other than say a mini events like a shootout/timed frames ect) so it's the circumstances surrounding the game that should be improved. It needs to become "cool". Add that to the other things I said last night about presentation/personalities ect.

                    I don't expect avid snooker fans to agree, but the whole point in this is to bring in new fans. You don't do that by doing things the same way. Move with the times.
                    Yup, couldn't agree you more. Well said!

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                    • You know what, I've read all the arguments, and I've changed my mind! Yeah - people have paid their entrance fee, they should be allowed to wear what they want. Personally I wouldn't wear a footy shirt, but hey ho, no big deal.

                      The players however, should have to wear a full suit of armour.

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                      • Originally Posted by FOXMULDER View Post
                        Snooker players should look like snooker players. Put it to a public vote, I'm sure most people would agree with that.
                        I agree fully, it's tradition and we've all grown to love this, however my mind changes slightly with maquire getting a Doctors note for life so he doesn't wear a tie it's such a big advantage not wearing one I hate the darn things they are so off putting, so with that in mind maybe all players should be a equal playing field and ditch the ties or make him wear a trump tie

                        That's the only change in the traditional way I would like to see myself sorry if people disagree its just my opinion of players outfits

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                        • Think its just all down to the individual but if i ever got to the Crucible i would go all out esp a Final.

                          As for the players OMG dont give Barry any ideas they are fine as they are!!!

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                          • Snooker hooligans!!

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                            • Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
                              My sisters first husband always wore a suit when he went out on a friday night. He would come home drunk and beat her up. Still I suppose she got a classy beating rather than a scruffy one.
                              He however got a scruffy beating when I found out about it, as I don't own a suit, and had to hit him dressed in my leather jacket and Levi 501's.
                              Should I have hired one for the occasion ?
                              Would you go to a restaurant dressed in tracky bottoms and football shirt? I hope not, no one should go to a major sporting event dressed like that either, have some self respect, at least look semi smart, jeans and polo shirt will do, football shirts are a no no in my book, it doesnt make you a certain type of person looking nice, it's called having respect for the occasion and yourself, surely you can see what I'm getting at??

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                              • Originally Posted by breakman16 View Post
                                no one should go to a major sporting event dressed like that either
                                The FA cup final was packed with men wearing suits.

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