Provisional Rankings after UK

[PaulTheSoave]

I notice there are big chances going on at the moment. big jumps and falls. I can remember in previous seasons it would be trivial changes. more of a status quo in the top 16.

Noticeable are Dings' surge forward, Dott confirming his world title. I am also surprised at Joe Swails' position. And of course the two Jimmy's going down. Stevens and The whirlwind himself. Mcmanus from 5 to 30


Rank Start Player Provisional 2005/2006 2006/2007

1 7 John Higgins 28,350 19,150 9,200
2 6 Ken Doherty 27,500 20,250 7,250
3 17 Graeme Dott 26,975 19,100 7,875
4 9 Peter Ebdon 25,150 15,550 9,600
5 56 Ding Junhui 24,625 14,475 10,150
6 22 Mark Williams 23,625 18,300 5,325
7 2 Stephen Hendry 23,575 15,100 8,475
8 1 Ronnie O'Sullivan 23,100 12,850 10,250 (ban to consider)
9 10 Stephen Lee 21,450 13,500 7,950
10 4 Shaun Murphy 21,300 16,350 4,950
11 13 Neil Robertson 20,525 12,575 7,950
12 8 Steve Davis 18,950 13,100 5,850
13 29 Joe Perry 18,575 11,750 6,825
14 18 Barry Hawkins 17,750 14,600 3,150
15 3 Stephen Maguire 17,150 11,000 6,150
16 30 Mark King 16,800 10,100 6,700
17 50 Joe Swail 16,675 12,600 4,075
18 20 Ryan Day 16,550 10,050 6,500
19 40 Stuart Bingham 16,300 12,300 4,000
20 82 Jamie Cope 15,500 10,375 5,125
21 11 Matthew Stevens 15,250 8,600 6,650
22 25 Mark Selby 15,025 9,125 5,900
23 26 David Gray 14,288 9,713 4,575
24 31 Michael Holt 14,113 11,275 2,838
25 28 Nigel Bond 14,013 10,350 3,663
26 39 Gerard Greene 14,000 8,600 5,400
27 32 James Wattana 13,988 11,150 2,838
28 47 Dominic Dale 13,725 8,700 5,025
29 41 Dave Harold 13,075 9,625 3,450
30 5 Alan McManus 12,825 6,200 6,625
31 15 Allister Carter 12,700 9,550 3,150
32 33 Marco Fu 12,650 11,500 1,150
33 12 Ian McCulloch 11,951 7,188 4,763
34 82 Mark Allen 11,900 8,250 3,650
35 35 Ricky Walden 11,675 8,225 3,450
36 14 Anthony Hamilton 11,551 9,413 2,138
37 48 Michael Judge 11,500 7,475 4,025
38 54 Robin Hull 10,913 6,338 4,575
39 71 Stuart Pettman 10,513 7,975 2,538
40 16 Robert Milkins 10,501 6,338 4,163
41 37 Mark Davis 10,425 8,400 2,025
42 70 David Roe 10,413 7,375 3,038
43 24 Barry Pinches 10,388 7,563 2,825
43 67 Andrew Norman 10,388 6,600 3,788
45 34 Adrian Gunnell 9,750 6,675 3,075
45 46 Rod Lawler 9,750 5,850 3,900
47 38 John Parrott 9,738 6,663 3,075
48 54 Fergal O'Brien 9,650 7,125 2,525
49 21 Andy Hicks 9,626 7,613 2,013
50 48 Rory McLeod 9,600 5,825 3,775
51 63 Scott MacKenzie 9,125 6,050 3,075
52 51 Mike Dunn 8,938 5,238 3,700
53 82 David Gilbert 8,875 5,975 2,900
54 52 Jamie Burnett 8,825 5,125 3,700
54 42 Tom Ford 8,825 6,300 2,525
56 23 Jimmy White 8,475 6,450 2,025

copyright worldsnooker. 57 and beyond go to their homepage.

[Skypigeon]

thanks Paul!

[davis_greatest]

....And of course the two Jimmy's going down. Stevens and The whirlwind himself.

Thanks Paul. But I didn't understand this bit above. Two Jimmys? Jimmy Stevens???


Edit: do you mean that Matthew Stevens reminds you of White?

[dannyd0g]

Mcmanus has actually improved his position massively over the last couple of months, after a couple of good runs in the two recent rankers. He was provisionally down to 50 or 60 before them, but has now provisionally rescued at least a top 32 place.

[The Statman]

I notice there are big chances going on at the moment. big jumps and falls. I can remember in previous seasons it would be trivial changes. more of a status quo in the top 16.

Noticeable are Dings' surge forward, Dott confirming his world title. I am also surprised at Joe Swails' position. And of course the two Jimmy's going down. Stevens and The whirlwind himself. Mcmanus from 5 to 30


Rank Start Player Provisional 2005/2006 2006/2007

1 7 John Higgins 28,350 19,150 9,200
2 6 Ken Doherty 27,500 20,250 7,250
3 17 Graeme Dott 26,975 19,100 7,875
4 9 Peter Ebdon 25,150 15,550 9,600
5 56 Ding Junhui 24,625 14,475 10,150
6 22 Mark Williams 23,625 18,300 5,325
7 2 Stephen Hendry 23,575 15,100 8,475
8 1 Ronnie O'Sullivan 23,100 12,850 10,250 (ban to consider)
9 10 Stephen Lee 21,450 13,500 7,950
10 4 Shaun Murphy 21,300 16,350 4,950
11 13 Neil Robertson 20,525 12,575 7,950
12 8 Steve Davis 18,950 13,100 5,850
13 29 Joe Perry 18,575 11,750 6,825
14 18 Barry Hawkins 17,750 14,600 3,150
15 3 Stephen Maguire 17,150 11,000 6,150
16 30 Mark King 16,800 10,100 6,700
17 50 Joe Swail 16,675 12,600 4,075
18 20 Ryan Day 16,550 10,050 6,500
19 40 Stuart Bingham 16,300 12,300 4,000
20 82 Jamie Cope 15,500 10,375 5,125
21 11 Matthew Stevens 15,250 8,600 6,650
22 25 Mark Selby 15,025 9,125 5,900
23 26 David Gray 14,288 9,713 4,575
24 31 Michael Holt 14,113 11,275 2,838
25 28 Nigel Bond 14,013 10,350 3,663
26 39 Gerard Greene 14,000 8,600 5,400
27 32 James Wattana 13,988 11,150 2,838
28 47 Dominic Dale 13,725 8,700 5,025
29 41 Dave Harold 13,075 9,625 3,450
30 5 Alan McManus 12,825 6,200 6,625
31 15 Allister Carter 12,700 9,550 3,150
etc.

I am afraid I don't understand the second column.

At what point was Alan McManus 5, at the same time as Ding was as low as 56?

I would have thought McManus could be 5 on the provisional 1-year list, but Ding must have been higher than that.

According to my records (http://www.thesnookerforum.com/showthread-t_1536.html), Ding started the season officially 27 and provisionally 9. McManus could not possibly have been as high as 5 on either of these lists.

Is it from worldsnooker.com, by any chance?

[The Statman]

I've discovered what they've done.

The second column is actually the provisional (1-year) ranks at the beginning of the 2005-06 season, with Dott down at 17, McManus up at 5, etc. etc.

This is as it should read with the 'correct' comparison figures for column 2 (provisional 1-year list at start of 2006-07 season):

1 2 John Higgins 28,350 19,150 9,200
2 1 Ken Doherty 27,500 20,250 7,250
3 3 Graeme Dott 26,975 19,100 7,875
4 6 Peter Ebdon 25,150 15,550 9,600
5 9 Ding Junhui 24,625 14,475 10,150
6 4 Mark Williams 23,625 18,300 5,325
7 7 Stephen Hendry 23,575 15,100 8,475
8 12 Ronnie O'Sullivan 23,100 12,850 10,250 (ban to consider)
9 10 Stephen Lee 21,450 13,500 7,950
10 5 Shaun Murphy 21,300 16,350 4,950
11 13 Neil Robertson 20,525 12,575 7,950
12 11 Steve Davis 18,950 13,100 5,850
13 16 Joe Perry 18,575 11,750 6,825
14 8 Barry Hawkins 17,750 14,600 3,150
15 20 Stephen Maguire 17,150 11,000 6,150
16 23 Mark King 16,800 10,100 6,700
17 13 Joe Swail 16,675 12,600 4,075
18 24 Ryan Day 16,550 10,050 6,500
19 15 Stuart Bingham 16,300 12,300 4,000
20 21 Jamie Cope 15,500 10,375 5,125
21 32 Matthew Stevens 15,250 8,600 6,650
22 29 Mark Selby 15,025 9,125 5,900
23 25 David Gray 14,288 9,713 4,575
24 18 Michael Holt 14,113 11,275 2,838
25 22 Nigel Bond 14,013 10,350 3,663
26 31 Gerard Greene 14,000 8,600 5,400
27 19 James Wattana 13,988 11,150 2,838
28 30 Dominic Dale 13,725 8,700 5,025
29 26 Dave Harold 13,075 9,625 3,450
30 52 Alan McManus 12,825 6,200 6,625
31 27 Allister Carter 12,700 9,550 3,150
32 17 Marco Fu 12,650 11,500 1,150
33 42 Ian McCulloch 11,951 7,188 4,763
34 34 Mark Allen 11,900 8,250 3,650
35 35 Ricky Walden 11,675 8,225 3,450
36 28 Anthony Hamilton 11,551 9,413 2,138
37 39 Michael Judge 11,500 7,475 4,025
38 49 Robin Hull 10,913 6,338 4,575
39 36 Stuart Pettman 10,513 7,975 2,538
40 50 Robert Milkins 10,501 6,338 4,163
41 33 Mark Davis 10,425 8,400 2,025
42 40 David Roe 10,413 7,375 3,038
43 38 Barry Pinches 10,388 7,563 2,825
43 47 Andrew Norman 10,388 6,600 3,788
45 41 Adrian Gunnell 9,750 6,675 3,075
45 55 Rod Lawler 9,750 5,850 3,900
47 46 John Parrott 9,738 6,663 3,075
48 43 Fergal O'Brien 9,650 7,125 2,525
49 37 Andy Hicks 9,626 7,613 2,013
50 56 Rory McLeod 9,600 5,825 3,775
51 53 Scott MacKenzie 9,125 6,050 3,075
52 60 Mike Dunn 8,938 5,238 3,700
53 54 David Gilbert 8,875 5,975 2,900
54 62 Jamie Burnett 8,825 5,125 3,700
54 51 Tom Ford 8,825 6,300 2,525
56 48 Jimmy White 8,475 6,450 2,025

(bear in mind that Paul Hunter was listed at 45 on the column 2 list, produced in May.)
Which actually gives a different, but truer, view!

[hegeland]

Thanks Statman, was wondering about that myself.

[The Statman]

Yes. This far more represents what Paul was talking about – the usual minor tweaks rather than a massive change.

This shows only two newcomers (King and Maguire) at the expense of Swail and Bingham – though all four were borderline anyway.

I find it odd that WS can, yet again, be so slipshod in their website maintenance.

[PaulTheSoave]

Dont shoot the messenger boy! Go and correct Sir Rodney Walker!

I wondered how long it would take you to come to correct it. I already knew The WS website is total pants!! lol

[rambon]

Yes. This far more represents what Paul was talking about – the usual minor tweaks rather than a massive change.

This shows only two newcomers (King and Maguire) at the expense of Swail and Bingham – though all four were borderline anyway.

I find it odd that WS can, yet again, be so slipshod in their website maintenance.

Time to give up the day job then The Statman, go and tell SRW what needs doing and get your feet on the ladder. You could even double up as a referee/official scorer to save them a salary....

;-)

[The Statman]

Time to give up the day job then The Statman, go and tell SRW what needs doing and get your feet on the ladder. You could even double up as a referee/official scorer to save them a salary....

;-)

You suggesting I should do the work but forgo the salary?

[dannyd0g]

Time to give up the day job then The Statman, go and tell SRW what needs doing and get your feet on the ladder. You could even double up as a referee/official scorer to save them a salary....

;-)

Would this also mean ousting Martin Clark from his job. I believe he is the current 'statman' employed by World Snooker ?

[rambon]

it would make a change from the guy who currently takes the salary and doesn't do the work...

No, I'm suggesting you could efficiently do the jobs of three people for the salaries of 2

I reckon....

[lagermike]

Thanks Paul. But I didn't understand this bit above. Two Jimmys? Jimmy Stevens???


Edit: do you mean that Matthew Stevens reminds you of White?

You're a bit slow there Davis man!! Of course he means that White and Stevens are both crucible nearly men and that role will always be synomonous with the name 'Jimmy'!!

[April madness]

You're a bit slow there Davis man!! Of course he means that White and Stevens are both crucible nearly men and that role will always be synomonous with the name 'Jimmy'!!

Unless Matthew will do something extraordinary to overcome Jimmy in that field... Then Jimmy will be known as the guy who had a somewhat similar fate to Stevens