O'sullivan controversy once again

[Istabraq]

Seems hes brain washed most of the people on this forum, just like how he plays the media, his speech after his last world crown 2 ray stubbs a classic example.
Think we should just brush all his turns under the carpet, clearly his following thinks he can do no wrong and he is above the law and rules.
Wonder what will be next, any1 wana open a book???

[Monique]

Dare I say it, there seems to be an un-easy fear of Ronnie O'Sullivan from many pundits. They always seem to be on tenderhooks and worried about what he is going to say or do next. Its crazy - they need to get a backbone and just tell him to stop being a prat!

I remember seeing Ronnie beat Dott in the 2004 World Finals. We were sat about 6 rows back side on to the table and I can tell you some of the people supporting Ronnie were foul. They all liked to think of themselves a mini gangsters. Up in the eaves (those of you who know the crucible will know where that is), that thug ex boxer, whats his name, Naseem Hamed was there with a few of his dodgy mates and they were a total disgrace. Didnt he later get banged up for some traffic thing?? Anyway, since then, Ive seen Ronnie play a few times and the last was last year in the UK final. His following has changed thank God - but he still has issues.

Fact is though people, when he is on form , he is amazing and like him or loathe him, he draws the crowds. Thats why he is allowed to get away with what he does. if they ban him, they may as well cancel the season.

Seems hes brain washed most of the people on this forum, just like how he plays the media, his speech after his last world crown 2 ray stubbs a classic example.
Think we should just brush all his turns under the carpet, clearly his following thinks he can do no wrong and he is above the law and rules.
Wonder what will be next, any1 wana open a book???

He's in good company though ...
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_n14108129

[Wim]

I agree his behavior was childish but just imagine snooker - and this forum - without ROS ...

[ADR147]

I agree his behavior was childish but just imagine snooker - and this forum - without ROS ...

part of me is looking forward to it.

[kafka]

I agree his behavior was childish but just imagine snooker - and this forum - without ROS ...

I can imagine snooker without him very good. I have nothing against him but find him most of the time quite boring. (And yes he shows often brilliant stuff that of course I do enjoy.) So no problem for me.

But this discussion was very entertaining so you have a point...

[Wim]

I can imagine snooker without him very good. I have nothing against him but find him most of the time quite boring. (And yes he shows often brilliant stuff that of course I do enjoy.) So no problem for me.

But this discussion was very entertaining so you have a point...

You find him the most of the time quite boring ?
Are you a Mac Manus or Doherty fan ?

[ste bed]

it gets me how so many of you can waffle on about this subject who give a toss he did it, he's out, get over it life goes on . you cant change him thats just the way he his all this **** about he's ill he as problems christ i wish i had he's problems world champ multi millionare makes around 5 hundered grand a year life must be hard stick him on a building site over winter 6 am to 5 pm and see him moan then.the guys a child spits his dummy out evey time it does'nt go his way PLAIN AND SIMPLE. he plays good snooker and i love watching him but the guys a complete knob who only gives a **** about himself.

[Wim]

it gets me how so many of you can waffle on about this subject who give a toss he did it, he's out, get over it life goes on . you cant change him thats just the way he his all this **** about he's ill he as problems christ i wish i had he's problems world champ multi millionare makes around 5 hundered grand a year life must be hard stick him on a building site over winter 6 am to 5 pm and see him moan then.the guys a child spits his dummy out evey time it does'nt go his way PLAIN AND SIMPLE. he plays good snooker and i love watching him but the guys a complete knob who only gives a **** about himself.

No need to get emotional about this.

[João]

I agree his behavior was childish but just imagine snooker - and this forum - without ROS ...

No player is bigger than the sport.

[Wim]

No player is bigger than the sport.

I agree with this. His negative attitude at times will finally damage more Osullivan the player than snooker in general.

[CTquick147]

He seems to thrive after self inflicted humiliations. He returned brilliantly after the walk-out and the China incident last season. He's an recovering addict who likes to hit bottom. I still can't help but think this doesn't look good in terms of him defending his WC title.

[Migtsf]

He seems to thrive after self inflicted humiliations. He returned brilliantly after the walk-out and the China incident last season. He's an recovering addict who likes to hit bottom. I still can't help but think this doesn't look good in terms of him defending his WC title.

I’m not sure about him defending the WC title, but I think he has a pretty good chance of winning the Masters. It’s still 4 months to go until the WC, and without the burden of the UK title on his back he will play under much less pressure, so that can work to his advantage.

No player is bigger than the sport.

Indeed. Alex Higgins probably thought he was bigger than the sport and look where he is now, and the sport didn't end with his departure.

[ste bed]

snooker will be around alot longer than ronnie o'sullivan thats for sure its the same for any sport when you have a great people cant see anything past that player but someone always comes along whos better that just the nature of all sports. why are all great sports men crazy?

[Monique]

Snooker will hopefully be still around when all of us will have joined Moondan's heaven, the place that's blue because of the so many chalks' dust floating around the souls of all cue sportsmen (and women ) there.

Why are so many persons with a special talent crazy and/or deeply unhappy?

Here is a text on that theme ... it's called "Les poètes", lyrics of a song by Jean Ferrat

Je ne sais ce qui me possède
Et me pousse à dire à voix haute
Ni pour la pitié ni pour l'aide
Ni comme on avouerait ses fautes
Ce qui m'habite et qui m'obsède

Celui qui chante se torture
Quels cris en moi quel animal
Je tue ou quelle créature
Au nom du bien au nom du mal
Seuls le savent ceux qui se turent

Machado dort à Collioure
Trois pas suffirent hors d'Espagne
Que le ciel pour lui se fît lourd
Il s'assit dans cette campagne
Et ferma les yeux pour toujours

Au-dessus des eaux et des plaines
Au-dessus des toits des collines
Un plain-chant monte à gorge pleine
Est-ce vers l'étoile Hölderlin
Est-ce vers l'étoile Verlaine

Marlowe il te faut la taverne
Non pour Faust mais pour y mourir
Entre les tueurs qui te cernent
De leurs poignards et de leurs rires
A la lueur d'une lanterne

Etoiles poussières de flammes
En août qui tombez sur le sol
Tout le ciel cette nuit proclame
L'hécatombe des rossignols
Mais que sait l'univers du drame

La souffrance enfante les songes
Comme une ruche ses abeilles
L'homme crie où son fer le ronge
Et sa plaie engendre un soleil
Plus beau que les anciens mensonges

Je ne sais ce qui me possède
Et me pousse à dire à voix haute
Ni pour la pitié ni pour l'aide
Ni comme on avouerait ses fautes
Ce qui m'habite et qui m'obsède

I don't have the talent to translate it without betraying it, sorry. Art -in all its forms - is born out of pain...

[kafka]

You find him the most of the time quite boring ?
Are you a Mac Manus or Doherty fan ?

I like Doherty, yes.

Maybe it sounds stupid but when I know a player definately will win the frame there is no tense in it anymore. Where is the battle? So you can say he is to good for me.
And I find his personality boring and all the fuss about him I just don't understand.