Betfred.com World Snooker Championship R2 Discussion

[Looki]

I don't think Selby trying to get the snookers was disrespectful, it's part of the game. Even if he had a big lead. So what? He had every right to continue playing. There's no rule against that.

That's one thing.

Another thing is slapping Hendry on the shoulder while his trying to figure out a shot. That is disrespectful. That's not the first time Selby does something like that (I remember him sitting on Ding's lap in some match...) and I find it very disturbing. And to do that to a proud player like Hendry who doesn't appreciate any 'fooling aroung' during matches and is the last person who disturbs opponent's concentration, that's something I don't accept.

[cazmac1]

It's kind of an unwritten rule with the top pros that you don't play for snookers when there’s too many to go for. If this becomes the norm it will be a backward step for the game. The next time someone plays Selby they might say ok I'm going to do what he does and carrying on playing for snookers dragging the frames on and on, making for long boring sessions. Selby is a great player but that’s where it stops for me arrogance is not a nice trait and Selby has in bag full’s. I for one will be routing for anyone he plays now in this tournament and any future tournaments.

[tatannes]

But I reiterate: imagine if Selby had conceeded that frame and Hendry went on to win 13-12.

At this level, you can't go giving away frames. You can question the morality of carrying on the frame, but the snookers were there to be got; and Selby got them.

And the end of the day, Hendry was 48 up with one red left. He can't blame anyone but himself (and, perhaps, "the Gods")

Well, we've seen tons of snooker and many players concede even with one single snooker needed, even at "this level" as you say.

Mark Selby has lost some fans today with this show off.

[João]

Selby is a disgrace. He's not humurous.. he's just a clown that only makes jokes when he's well ahead in the scoreline. He also needs to go away from the table when it's not his visit anymore as he often stays there to see if he got the snooker or not longer than he should.

On the other side, what a fascinating match Rory is playing. He managed to frustrate Higgins already and he's giving himself a chance to battle for the match. Snooker needs more characters like him, not clowns.

[missneworleans]

Selby is a disgrace. He's not humurous.. he's just a clown that only makes jokes when he's well ahead in the scoreline. He also needs to go away from the table when it's not his visit anymore as he often stays there to see if he got the snooker or not longer than he should.

On the other side, what a fascinating match Rory is playing. He managed to frustrate Higgins already and he's giving himself a chance to battle for the match. Snooker needs more characters like him, not clowns.

How about Stuart Bingham, he really plays well and leads Ding 8-4

[João]

How about Stuart Bingham, he really plays well and leads Ding 8-4

Ding's crucible second round misery continues.

[attilahun]

For me what Selby did is more than ok. Maybe some people are upset because his opponent was Hendry and because of the scoreline, but he did nothing wrong. 12-4 is no 11-5 and if he wanted to win that last frame and he eventually did so, thats more than ok. Lets not forget Hendry had a 4(FOUR) snookers advantage and he eventually lost the frame. Maybe its painful to Hendrys fans to see the great man humiliated, but nowadays he is no more than an ordinary player, and Selby took full advantage of that.

[drumscarey]

Selby didn't continue because he saw that he had a good chance of stealing the frame, that didn't become a serious possibility until luck played it's part. Selby was aware that he didn't need to concede, so why should he? He knew he was going to lose the frame but he wasnt going to be the one to concede. He didn't set out to achieve the four snookers, but Hendry didn't like that luck intervened and decided the outcome not clever play and Selby hadn't the good grace to accept that, he celebrated that he achieved the near impossible, just like he had set out. Hendry can accept that you can be unlucky and lose, he has no problem accepting loss because of superior play by you opponent, but he didn't like Selby celebrating like he had really dug in and achieved something special. Even the commentators were shocked by the 'events' remarking that it just goes to show what can happen if you don't stop. They were amazed at what happened, not once celebrating Selby's play or achievement. This irked Hendry because of what happened the frame before.

[Odrl]

Well, whether Selby celebrated or behaved inappropriately is one thing, but to actually criticize him for playing on is ridiculous. He needed 13 penalty points with a red still on the table, a free ball could have given him 12. And the balls definitely were in a good position, there were a couple of balls close together near the green spot, and the yellow was next to the blue.

Personally, I don't think playing on in this situation is in any way a step backwards for the game. Ebdon would have played on, Higgins might have done as well. If anything, I wouldn't like to see the Jimmy Robertson approach becoming the norm.

[drumscarey]

I don't think Selby trying to get the snookers was disrespectful, it's part of the game. Even if he had a big lead. So what? He had every right to continue playing. There's no rule against that.

That's one thing.

Another thing is slapping Hendry on the shoulder while his trying to figure out a shot. That is disrespectful. That's not the first time Selby does something like that (I remember him sitting on Ding's lap in some match...) and I find it very disturbing. And to do that to a proud player like Hendry who doesn't appreciate any 'fooling aroung' during matches and is the last person who disturbs opponent's concentration, that's something I don't accept.

Selby didn't come to the table to get the snookers he needed, at first nobody would have imagined it was possible or likely. Selby just refused to concede, to take away a little away from Hendry's winning break. In the earlier frame Selby missed a pot due to the pressure caused by Hendry's better play, Hendry saw a flicker of hope, but couldn't beleive his bad luck when he saw Selbys miss left him snookered and he certainly didnt enjoy Selby's making light of it, but when Hendry left him in and it wasn't his fault, Selby had no problem rubbing it in by taking the luck. By the next frame Hendry did enough to win but Selby decided he would refuse to concede therefore again rubbing Hendry's face in it, to not give him the satisfaction of conceding that Hendry had made a wining break.

[Theguywithaplan]

Selby didn't come to the table to get the snookers he needed, at first nobody would have imagined it was possible or likely. Selby just refused to concede, to take away a little away from Hendry's winning break. In the earlier frame Selby missed a pot due to the pressure caused by Hendry's better play, Hendry saw a flicker of hope, but couldn't beleive his bad luck when he saw Selbys miss left him snookered and he certainly didnt enjoy Selby's making light of it, but when Hendry left him in and it wasn't his fault, Selby had no problem rubbing it in by taking the luck. By the next frame Hendry did enough to win but Selby decided he would refuse to concede therefore again rubbing Hendry's face in it, to not give him the satisfaction of conceding that Hendry had made a wining break.

Say what you like but Selby came back to the table to try and win via snookers. That is fact. I think he would admit he got lucky on several ocasions.

[lawrywild]

The McLeod v Higgins match is boring me to tears

[stephenm2682]

even higgins is looking tired.

[spike]

The McLeod v Higgins match is boring me to tears

Then watch Ding v. Bingham then..

[lawrywild]

Then watch Ding v. Bingham then..

I'm watching both... multitasking :P

I just wanted to comment on how boring the match is.