Betfred.com World Snooker Championship Final Discussion

[fateric]

What's the first thing Higgins says in that video when he enters the room? "There aren't any hidden cameras here are there?"

Clearly innocent then??????

My last post ever on this subject as I admit he deserved to win as his cue ball control was better under pressure, but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

[gem]

Please, take you head out of the sand.

There was too much in that video for any spin to have been made.

Talking about paying villas off in Spain.
Haggling about the money due to be paid from 200 to 300k.

These are not the topics of a scared man. Don't you also think if there were any hidden bits of the video that the NOTW did not want you to see, Higgins would have had released to help them. HMMM probably because there are no hidden scenes in that video that could help Higgins.

If it was as obvious as you say then he would have been found guilty. The people that matter saw the whole evidence and found him not guilty of the charge.
He is completely innocent. Get over it!!

Also I don't think there has been anyone else capable of winning like that when obviously struggling with their game.
His fighting ability allowed him to beat people playing better than him.
It was only today that he started look more like his old self and when he needed it.

[CueAntW147]

My last post ever on this subject as I admit he deserved to win as his cue ball control was better under pressure, but he shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Very fair statement this really.

[BarryH]

The Terminator

I'm no fan of John Higgins, but the incessant slander posted on here about him is getting pretty annoying. Why on earth would a player of his ability need or want to throw matches? Makes no sense however you look at it.

I wanted Trump to win, but just because he didn't doesn't mean Higgins is a cheat. A bit jammy maybe, but he can't help that!

Hopefully Trump will overcome the Terminator more quickly than John Connor.

[breakman16]

But not as good as the Hurricane's against The Whirlwind in the 1982 semi.......lol

I meant the year as a whole, from last year's worlds, through his comeback and father's death, to winning loads of tourneys on his return to winning this year's worlds, as Hazel was somberly telling us the scandal last year, who would have ever thought of all of that heppening in 12 months?? Truly extraordinary stuff!

[BarryH]

I think the BBC should definitely interview the family members after each frame. Also, they should have cameras on the players throughout the whole interval, even into the toilet.

They could have in-bowl toilet-cams and Rishi Persad giving live blow-by-blow commentary on the bowel movements as they happen. They could even keep stats so Dennis Taylor can announce when both players have scored 16,526 points each, are on 72% long pot success and have both achieved 5 floaters. I can feel a Pulse question coming on...

[Hendry_the_GOAT]

Hendry in the nineties is the best player we have and probably ever will see, he would be just as effective in any era if he could somehow tranform back to his early to mid 20's, there has never been anyone that good, that young with such a stealy mentality, basically he was Snookers true 'Phenom'

I meant the year as a whole, from last year's worlds, through his comeback and father's death, to winning loads of tourneys on his return to winning this year's worlds, as Hazel was somberly telling us the scandal last year, who would have ever thought of all of that heppening in 12 months?? Truly extraordinary stuff!

Amazing stuff, also the way in which he done it, 9-5 behind Williams, that frame where he needed the snookers when everyone thought Williams had won, the full table double to clinch it, and again tonight needing a snooker and the double before the black to win it, epic.

Great player, really glad he won as the bias towards Trump was getting far too much, especially from the crowd, almost as bad as they used to be for Ronnie, a none English player would never get those reactions, thats part of the reason White/O'Sullivan and now Trump are adored so much, not just the fact they have flair.

I also find it hilarious Higgins being labelled as boring to watch when he is anything but, one of the best to watch for me.

[CueAntW147]

I meant the year as a whole, from last year's worlds, through his comeback and father's death, to winning loads of tourneys on his return to winning this year's worlds, as Hazel was somberly telling us the scandal last year, who would have ever thought of all of that heppening in 12 months?? Truly extraordinary stuff!

Ok, i meant of all time.......lol

Plenty has happened to him for sure and its hard for anyone thats suffered family bereavements i can relate to this myself during the past 12 months.

As for the scandals, well that will run on i think as we all have a dfferent opinion on it this thread proves that, its just a shame its cast a shadow over the tournament, i've never been a John Higgins fan before all this but you have to say he's a great match player and proved it again today.

I really wanted Judd to win just for his style of play and think it would have been better all round for the game if he had, especially with opinions running high on Higgins as to whether he should have been there or not.

For anyone just tuning into the sport though during this tournament without knowing about anything else, i think its been a good one for the sport as a whole based on the atmosphere, standard of play, not to mention young Judd Trump !

[Hendry_the_GOAT]

Forgot to add that despite the irritation caused by the crowd (and on here), i really enjoyed watching Judd these last 2 weeks, he will have a great career, he will only improve from this experience.

[breakman16]

Hendry in the nineties is the best player we have and probably ever will see, he would be just as effective in any era if he could somehow tranform back to his early to mid 20's, there has never been anyone that good, that young with such a stealy mentality, basically he was Snookers true 'Phenom'



Amazing stuff, also the way in which he done it, 9-5 behind Williams, that frame where he needed the snookers when everyone thought Williams had won, the full table double to clinch it, and again tonight needing a snooker and the double before the black to win it, epic.

Great player, really glad he won as the bias towards Trump was getting far too much, especially from the crowd, almost as bad as they used to be for Ronnie, a none English player would never get those reactions, thats part of the reason White/O'Sullivan and now Trump are adored so much, not just the fact they have flair.

I also find it hilarious Higgins being labelled as boring to watch when he is anything but, one of the best to watch for me.

He was, snooker's closest to the unbelieveable phil taylor (never be another to dominate to his level, and he's far from finished), I know, it got a bit yobbish at points, shouting of silly things and proper shouting rather than saying something in a normal tone of voice, he is the best matchplayer all round, temprement, tactics, breakbuilding, pressure play, clearing up from behind, producing when behind, mental belief, that there has ever been for me, he is an amazing man, and is sure to win at least 1 more world title for me, if anyone deserves to equal or beat hendry's record it is him, higgins is far from boring, a lot just dont want to see him win (suppose he is boring in comparison to trump), but he is quite attacking, it's not like he's steady eddie or thorburn or griffiths!

[Nugget]

Great player, really glad he won as the bias towards Trump was getting far too much, especially from the crowd, almost as bad as they used to be for Ronnie, a none English player would never get those reactions, thats part of the reason White/O'Sullivan and now Trump are adored so much, not just the fact they have flair.

Ever hear of Alex Higgins?

[ADR147]

Stephen Hendry at his absolute peak was better than Higgins

i am a huge fan of hendry but i am afraid his all round game was never as solid - he was a better break builder and a frightening competitor but he was not as complete a machine as jh is.

[cally]

He was, snooker's closest to the unbelieveable phil taylor (never be another to dominate to his level, and he's far from finished)

How can you ever compare a dart player to a snooker player...LMAO.

I know you meant on a 'dominant' level but still please don't use comparisons between snooker players and dart players in future...lol............

[ADR147]

Having someone guilty of frame dropping would cast a major shadow over the sport which is most likely the reason why they found Higgins one of their top draws not guilty.

Not sure how you believe a verdict over clear cut video evidence. The video is there for all to see, you probably havn't even seen it I guess.

the news of the world had to admit to the sports tribunal that it was edited so nobody has seen it! originally the refused to had it over , when they did john was cleared - nuff said.

[breakman16]

How can you ever compare a dart player to a snooker player...LMAO.

I know you meant on a 'dominant' level but still please don't use comparisons between snooker players and dart players in future...lol............

U know how I meant it though, I wasnt comparing the skill levels of the sports at all, although darts is a very accurate and is a game that requires great technique and great skill especially when going for doubles with darts in the way, I meant on win loss ratios, legs or sets conceeded, titles won, there is no one like phil, for many years, there never will be again, who would u compare hendry to then in terms of dominance? Who else apart from phil, if ur gonna mention fair comparisons regardless of whether I meant it or not comes close? I'm purely talking about titles won, finals achieved, the aura hendry had, as does phil, nothing at all to do with comparing snooker to darts at all, snooker is third only to tennis (and maybe other raquet sports) and golf as being the most technical sport in the world at pro level in my view!