World Snooker Championships Discussion

[Odrl]

Can't talk to people who don't play the game, you'll never understand the point I'm making. The red Murphy potted to leave himself snookered was always going into the reds, he was relying on luck to be on a colour. After that he was relying on luck to not leave the red over the middle, so whatever way you look at it he relied on two bits of luck and eventually came out of the situation fortuitously.

You're right, I'm afraid I'll never understand this logic. :wink:

The pink and black were in the middle of the table, so chances were Murphy was going to be on an easy colour, unless he stuck on the reds like he did. I don't see how getting a bad result there is not bad luck, just because the shot relied slightly on luck. And then he was somehow lucky not to leave the cut over the middle, as if hitting the yellow was a fluke. :wink:

At the same time, when I suggested Fu was unlucky to get a bad split against Trump, it's once again a shot that relies on luck, so he wasn't entitled to get a good one, but when Trump fouled on the split earlier, it was bad luck. :wink:

Anyway, well played to Murphy, a deserved 6-2 lead. I expect Trump to play better in the evening, and he needs to. Anything other than winning the session would leave him with a lot to do...

[Odrl]

Well played to Barry Hawkins as well, nice response after going 3-2 behind, taking three in a row to lead 5-3 after the first session. It will be interesting to see if Ding can repeat the strong second session he had against King. :smile:

[nrage]

Be interesting to see if they change these balls, I've never seen so many balls missed thick as today. I can't believe these two who are usually good cueists missing so many easy balls as today. That shot their when Trump screwed the white came back far to quick for a normal weighted ball IMO.

You're like a conspiracy theorist you are .. Occam's razor (simplest answer is usually sufficient) would suggest the players are just playing badly. Why look for excuses beyond that?

i wanna know trumps long pot success

definelty in the 10%

43% as it happens.

[carlosportsman]

Fair play to Murphy, he's put himself in a good position and he will feel confident of pushing on in the next session.

Hawkins did well also, at 3-2 I felt Ding might kick on and win the session but Hawkins played lovely and looks the more at ease overall in the match, Ding has too many peaks and troughs in frames or sessions and I am not sure his peaks are sustained enough at present. He looked a bit jaded at the end of that session

[P.Smith]

Pathetic display by Judd made even worse by the fact Murphy seemed to be getting the run of the balls. He's never coming back from 6-2 behind so he's as good as out. That means my only favorite left in is Ding and he's losing as well.

[carlosportsman]

Pathetic display by Judd made even worse by the fact Murphy seemed to be getting the run of the balls. He's never coming back from 6-2 behind so he's as good as out. That means my only favorite left in is Ding and he's losing as well.

I was surprised by that performance by Judd, his game has looked more rounded this year and I thought he'd be too much for Murphy.

As for Ding, he's not out of it at 5-3 and it could be an intriguing second session

[daffie]

Pathetic display by Judd made even worse by the fact Murphy seemed to be getting the run of the balls. He's never coming back from 6-2 behind so he's as good as out. That means my only favorite left in is Ding and he's losing as well.

You seem to forget one thing...it's best of 25 here...so a lot of time still to come back and turn things around. But I do agree with you that Murphy's lead of 6-2 over an out-of-sorts Trump is a big one indeed. My favorite to win this year has always been Shaun and so I will be rooting for him. Having said all that...I'm a sucker for close (tense) matches so if it goes close I will still be a winner in the end

[P.Smith]

I was surprised by that performance by Judd, his game has looked more rounded this year and I thought he'd be too much for Murphy.

Well in fairness Judd's safety was actually the best part of his game this morning. But his long game was totally off.

[P.Smith]

You seem to forget one thing...it's best of 25 here...so a lot of time still to come back and turn things around. But I do agree with you that Murphy's lead of 6-2 over an out-of-sorts Trump is a big one indeed. My favorite to win this year has always been Shaun and so I will be rooting for him. Having said all that...I'm a sucker for close (tense) matches so if it goes close I will still be a winner in the end

Judd has not been known for comebacks. It won't happen. 13-6 is my prediction.

[carlosportsman]

Well in fairness Judd's safety was actually the best part of his game this morning. But his long game was totally off.

Absolutely, what I mean't was that he hasn't looked as prone to one part of his game failing so badly as it did this morning.

[trains]

My favorite to win this year has always been Shaun and so I will be rooting for him.

O'Sullivan would have to be sub par in the semi final to lose to Murphy based on Murphy's career so far,thats not accounting for Murphy having a career match and not disrespecting Bingham who could also have a career match in this quarter final.

[P.Smith]

Absolutely, what I mean't was that he hasn't looked as prone to one part of his game failing so badly as it did this morning.

Yes you're right. Looks to me as if it all happened when he came back after the third frame. Started out really good and aggressive and then unfortunately knocked in a red when going into the pack off the blue. Seemed to knock him quite a lot.

[SouthPaw]

Judd needs to lay off the partying and concentrate 100% on his snooker or he'll end up the forgotten man, I'm not just talking about his performance now but of the last two years in most tournaments! Overrated to say the least and over hyped, Shaun looks like he wants revenge from their last meeting and looks hungrier(lay off the pies Murphy ) for victory...

[Gerry Armstrong]

78% pot success and a high break of 40 is VERY poor from Trump and nothing to do with luck or run of the ball, but it's by no means over after just 1 session of a 3 session match. Trump is well capable of knocking in 3 or 4 tons and level up by the end of session 2.

Still a lot of snooker to play in this match.

[daffie]

Judd has not been known for comebacks. It won't happen. 13-6 is my prediction.

78% pot success and a high break of 40 is VERY poor from Trump and nothing to do with luck or run of the ball, but it's by no means over after just 1 session of a 3 session match. Trump is well capable of knocking in 3 or 4 tons and level up by the end of session 2.

Still a lot of snooker to play in this match.

Agreed! And you never know with Judd...if he comes out next session playing well enough to beat Shaun 6-2 then it's game on for the last session.