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  • #46
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    Not sure if this will come out straight, but I have used Statman's brilliant data (buy the book Crucible Almanac if you haven't already!) to determine longest spans between first and last World Championship appearance. It's not the same as a "professional career" obviously, but a lot easier to quantify and a useful marker.

    I have ignored tournaments entered but scratched without playing, which knocks a year off Pulman and Thorne, two off Barrie and six off Higgins! I have just used year of Championship, making no allowance for when games were actually played - so Higgins and Dunning get no credit for starting their 1972 campaigns early in 1971.

    Interestingly, all of the top seven span the period when tournament snooker was dead, leaving Steve Davis as the man who has competed on "the circuit" for longest.

    First Last Span
    1 Fred Davis 1937 1993 56
    2 Rex Williams 1952 1995 43
    3 Jack Rea 1949 1990 41
    4 Sydney Lee 1936 1974 38
    5 John Pulman 1947 1981 34*
    6 Kingsley Kennerley1946 1980 34
    7 John Barrie 1946 1979 33*
    8 Steve Davis 1979 2008 29
    9 Tony Knowles 1981 2008 27
    10 Jimmy White 1981 2008 27
    11 Dennis Taylor 1973 2000 27
    12 David Taylor 1970 1997 27
    13 Eddie Charlton 1968 1995 27
    14 Willie Thorne 1976 2002 26*
    15 Bernard Bennett 1969 1995 26
    16 Les Dodd 1983 2008 25
    17 Mike Hallett 1980 2005 25
    18 Doug Mountjoy 1977 2002 25
    19 John Dunning 1972 1997 25
    20 Alex Higgins 1972 1997 25*

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    • #47
      where is joe davis in that list?
      https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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      • #48
        Originally Posted by ADR147 View Post
        where is joe davis in that list?
        A bit further down. 1927-46 20 yrs

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        • #49
          umm i don't know the exact dates but he had a famous snooker battle in london against willie smith in 1923 - and he made the 147 break in 1955 ?
          https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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          • #50
            ah - the first ever world snooker championship was 1927 - which he won.
            https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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            • #51
              Originally Posted by ADR147 View Post
              umm i don't know the exact dates but he had a famous snooker battle in london against willie smith in 1923 - and he made the 147 break in 1955 ?
              Joe retired as unbeaten "World's Champion" following his victory over Horace Lindrum in London in 1946. He continued to play exhibitions and in the other top professional tournaments until his full retirement in 1964. Almost all of these were handicap events, where Joe conceded large starts to the other professionals, except brother Fred. This would safeguard his record of not losing to anyone on "level terms", in the event that he lost. For some years after Joe's retirement, the official World Champion was afforded the right to play Joe off level, as a reward for lifting the title. This, in the public eye, was the match to decide the "real" champion.

              I don't know of any really famous snooker battles between Joe and Willie Smith, other than perhaps their matches in the championship in the 1930's. They had some famous billiard matches however, in the 1920's. Willie was arguably the top billiards player in the world in the early 20's but was overtaken by the heavyweights, namely Joe, Walter Lindrum, Tom Newman and Clark McConachy, all of whom had the famous nursey canon as their number 1 scoring weapon. Smith, by contrast, played the "all round game", and indeed, played it as well (if not better) than anyone else in the world. The really big breaks though, were made with nurseries and, made very, very quickly.

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              • #52
                Joe Davis - Willie Smith, World Snooker Championship match details here (courtesy of The Statman)
                http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...?t=7549&page=2

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                • #53
                  I've been trying to get info on Kingsley Kennerly, obviously a good player. In fact clearly the bestamateur cueman in the country in the years leading to WWII. I've got some matches at home he is commentating on but can't find agreat deal of info or footage.

                  Anyone have any leads/suggestions?
                  Last edited by jb134; 26 December 2010, 09:33 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Might be Driffield commentating actually.

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                    • #55
                      Originally Posted by jb134 View Post
                      I've been trying to get info on Kingsley Kennerly, obviously a good player. In fact clearly the bestamateur cueman in the country in the years leading to WWII. I've got some matches at home he is commentating on but can't find agreat deal of info or footage.

                      Anyone have any leads/suggestions?
                      He was one of the 8 men who contested the inaugural series of Pot Black in 1969.

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