Latest re-rack in history

[vucko117]

Hi guys,

I have talked to a friend of mine last night and he told me that he heard that Ray Reardon and Eddie Charlton re-racked a frame with only blue.pink and black left on the table!!!

Is this true? And if it is,does someone know why did they decide to go for a re-rack so late in the frame?

[The Statman]

Don't know about that, but in the Davis-Mountjoy world final, the eighth frame was re-racked after 48 minutes with only blue, pink and black remaining.

There was one point between them and the blue and another colour were lodged together near a pocket with neither player willing or able to provide a solution.

[Souwester]

I'm sure I heard a report either last year or the year before that, that the final frame in one of the EBSA or IBSF matches was restarted with just the black left!

[Welshsteve]

I'm sure I heard a report either last year or the year before that, that the final frame in one of the EBSA or IBSF matches was restarted with just the black left!

That's ridiculous! I cannot see any situation where a re-rack is required with only black left

[sprogbasket]

I saw a competetitioin recently where the ref demanded that the player had a re rack after clearing the table for a 140 break- the player had shaken his opponents hand and gone to leave the arena but the ref marched him back and made him pot a re racked black from the spot after the game was over !

[bongo]

I'm sure I heard a report either last year or the year before that, that the final frame in one of the EBSA or IBSF matches was restarted with just the black left!

Yes, I have heard that. I believe it did actually happen.

[missneworleans]

Maybe black was tied to the cushion and both were rolling cueball to it...

[Welshsteve]

Is there nothing in the rules that would allow the referee to step in and ask the players to play a positive safety shot? I'm guessing not as it's up to the player how he plays his shot.

[vucko117]

Yes,but still. It is quite silly to re-rack with only black left on the table. I find this quite interesting,as I was convinced that re-rack are only done at the start of the frame

[bongo]

Is there nothing in the rules that would allow the referee to step in and ask a player to play a positive safety shot? I'm guessing not as it's up to the player how he plays his shot.

The referee should say, when a stalemate situation arises, that each player is allowed three more shots (up to the referee to decide how many shots) and if the situation is basically unchanged after those three shots each then the frame will be restarted. If a stalemate exists and both players want a re-rack then obviously the frame will be restarted right away.

[missneworleans]

Well maybe players really wanted a re-rack. And on final black no one wanted to risk!

[vucko117]

Is there nothing in the rules that would allow the referee to step in and ask the players to play a positive safety shot? I'm guessing not as it's up to the player how he plays his shot.

Ref:"Uhm,guys... I am quite bored with this ,so could you play more attractive snooker,please"

[bongo]

Yes,but still. It is quite silly to re-rack with only black left on the table. I find this quite interesting,as I was convinced that re-rack are only done at the start of the frame

I wouldn't say so, just because only the black is left. If it's a blackball game and the black is tight up against the top cushion for example and both players are just tapping into the black and the cue-ball is double kissing back into the same position, then the referee is quite right in my opinion to say that the players have a certain number of shots each to change the situation, perhaps five more shots each. I'm not saying I would restart the frame in that case but it is certainly not silly. If the players can't play another type of shot then that's their fault!

[Welshsteve]

Maybe a rule should be written in that in that situation, a re-spotted black situation is used, with a toss of the coin for who "breaks off"

[vucko117]

I wouldn't say so, just because only the black is left. If it's a blackball game and the black is tight up against the top cushion for example and both players are just tapping into the black and the cue-ball is double kissing back into the same position, then the referee is quite right in my opinion to say that the players have a certain number of shots each to change the situation, perhaps five more shots each. I'm not saying I would restart the frame in that case but it is certainly not silly. If the players can't play another type of shot then that's their fault!

OK maybe it's not silly But then again,players should be encouraged to play positive safety. IF that is not possible,then I agree with Welshsteve, they should play a re-spotted black and not re-rack the complete frame!!!