Pot Black & Other TV Tournaments

[Tone]

Hello,
I have posted this request before but I thought I'd post it again.
I'm trying to trace the match results for the following TV tournaments:
Pot Black 1969-1992;
Australian/World Masters 1974-1981;
Canadian TV Tournament 1970-?;
Park Drive TV Tournament (Yorkshire TV) 1973-4;
Make A Break (Thames TV) 1973;
Ladbrokes England v Rest of World (Thames TV) 1976-7;
Pro-Celebrity (Yorkshire TV) 1976-1984 I think.
+ any not mentioned.
Any help at all would be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Tony

[ferret]

try wikipedia and the BBC

[gmg]

Hi Tony. I've been trying to track down the results of the original Pot Black series for a while now as well but with relatively little success. Obviously the results of each of the finals are quite easily available but other than that it's difficult. This is what I've come up with (some of them are only fixtures rather than results and most don't have the actual points scored):

Pot Black 1973
Eddie Charlton beat John Spencer

Final
Eddie Charlton beat Rex Williams 93-33

1976
3rd place play off
Eddie Charlton v Rex Williams

Final
John Spencer beat Dennis Taylor 69-42

Pot Black: 1977
Players: Ray Reardon, Cliff Thorburn, Eddie Charlton, John Pulman, Graham Miles, Dennis Taylor, John Spencer, Doug Mountjoy, Willie Thorne, Rex Williams, Fred Davis and Perrie Mans.

Round Robin
Group 1
Cliff Thorburn v Rex Williams
Eddie Charlton v Cliff Thorburn
Rex Williams v Eddie Charlton

Group winner: Cliff Thorburn

Group 2
Doug Mountjoy v John Pulman
John Spencer v John Pulman
Doug Mountjoy v John Spencer

Group winner: Doug Mountjoy

Group 3
Ray Reardon v Perrie Mans
Ray Reardon v Fred Davis
Perrie Mans v Fred Davis

Group winner: Perrie Mans

Group 4
Graham Miles v Dennis Taylor
Dennis Taylor v Willie Thorne
Willie Thorne v Graham Miles

Group winner: Willie Thorne

Semi Final
Doug Mountjoy beat Cliff Thorburn
Perrie Mans beat Willie Thorne

Third place play off
Cliff Thorburn v Willie Thorne

Final
Perrie Mans beat Doug Mountjoy 90-21

1979
Group 2
Perrie Mans v Doug Mountjoy
Doug Mountjoy v Steve Davis


1983
Group 1
Steve Davis beat Ray Reardon ?-33
Kirk Stevens beat Steve Davis
Willie Thorne beat Kirk Stevens 93-?
Ray Reardon beat Willie Thorne 70-54
Steve Davis beat Willie Thorne 94-34
Ray Reardon beat Kirk Stevens 105-9

Final Group P W Pts
Steve Davis 3 2 238
Ray Reardon 3 2 208
Willie Thorne 3 1 181
Kirk Stevens 3 1 113

Group 2
Eddie Charlton beat Jimmy White ?-41
Tony Knowles beat Alex Higgins 113-?
Eddie Charlton beat Alex Higgins
Jimmy White beat Tony Knowles 62-50
Jimmy White beat Alex Higgins 120-8
Eddie Charlton beat Tony Knowles 75-57

Final Group P W Pts
Eddie Charlton 3 3 250
Jimmy White 3 2 223
Tony Knowles 3 1 220
Alex Higgins 3 0 43

Semi Final
Steve Davis beat Jimmy White
Ray Reardon beat Eddie Charlton

Final
Steve Davis beat Ray Reardon 2-0


1984
Terry Griffiths v Doug Mountjoy
Willie Thorne v Dennis Taylor
Steve Davis v Jimmy White
John Spencer v Jimmy White

Pot Black: 1985
1st Round
Willie Thorne beat Eddie Charlton

Quarter Finals
Willie Thorne v Cliff Thorburn

Semi Finals
Doug Mountjoy beat Dennis Taylor

Final
Doug Mountjoy beat Jimmy White 2-0

Pot Black:1986
Participants: players who reached the last 16 of the 1985 World Championship

1st Round
Patsy Fagan beat Doug Mountjoy 67-62
Jimmy White beat Terry Griffiths 76-47
Tony Knowles beat Eddie Charlton 100-13
Cliff Thorburn beat David Taylor 58-38
Bill Werbeniuk beat Steve Davis 65-45
Kirk Stevens beat Tony Meo 62-54
Ray Reardon v Alex Higgins
Dennis Taylor v John Parrott

Quarter Final
Jimmy White beat Patsy Fagan
Tony Knowles v Cliff Thorburn
Kirk Stevens beat Bill Werbeniuk
Reardon/ Higgins v Taylor/ Parrott

Semi Final
Jimmy White beat Knowles/ Thorburn
Kirk Stevens beat Reardon/ Higgins/ Taylor/ Parrott

Final
Jimmy White beat Kirk Stevens 2-0

Pot Black: 1991
Participants: Top 16 players in the World Rankings
1st Round
Jimmy White beat Willie Thorne
John Parrott beat Tony Knowles
Stephen Hendry beat Tony Jones
Steve Davis beat Martin Clark
Gary Wilkinson beat Dean Reynolds
Neal Foulds beat Terry Griffiths
Doug Mountjoy beat Steve James
Dennis Taylor beat Mike Hallett

Quarter-Final
Jimmy White beat Dennis Taylor
Steve Davis beat Gary Wilkinson
Stephen Hendry beat Neal Foulds
Doug Mountjoy beat John Parrott

Semi-Final (2 frame aggregate)
Steve Davis beat Jimmy White 164-67
Stephen Hendry beat Doug Mountjoy 221-31

Final (best of 3 frames)
Steve Davis beat Stephen Hendry 2-1



1997 Seniors Pot Black
Participants: 12 Players, over 40 years old, 8 former winners & 4 wild-cards

Former Winners
Eddie Charlton
Terry Griffiths
Perrie Mans
Graham Miles
Doug Mountjoy
Ray Reardon
John Spencer
Cliff Thorburn

Wild-cards
Joe Johnson
Dennis Taylor
Willie Thorne
Rex Williams

1st Round
Dennis Taylor beat John Spencer 74-47
Ray Reardon beat Willie Thorne 80-46
Joe Johnson beat Perrie Mans 87-30
Graham Miles beat Rex Williams 75-26

Quarter Finals
Dennis Taylor v Doug Mountjoy 101-28
Joe Johnson beat Eddie Charlton 50-31
Graham Miles beat Cliff Thorburn
Terry Griffiths beat Ray Reardon

Semi Finals
Joe Johnson beat Dennis Taylor
Terry Griffiths beat Graham Miles

Final
Joe Johnson beat Terry Griffiths

Further reading:
*Pot Black Magazine (November, 1992)
- gives results and report for Timeframe competition.
*Pot Black Magazine (December, 1993)
- gives results for 1993 competition

Tony, can you please let me know what results you've come up with.
Regards,
Gareth.

[gmg]

This thread just reminded me of a one frame match involving Steve Davis that was televised about 2-3 days before the commencement of the 1985 World Championship. As a youngster I'd assumed that this actually was the World Title and that Davis was making an early exit. Anybody got any idea what this one frame match was? Davis lost it on the last few balls.

[Tone]

It was most likely Jimmy White beating Davis in the Pot Black Quarter-final.
Tony

[gmg]

Could have been but I don't think it was. I recall not recognising his opponent and even though I'd only been a snooker fan for about six months I'd become pretty fanatical about it and would certainly have recognised Jimmy. Furthermore, this was shown during the daytime and I don't think Pot Black was ever broadcast at that time. From memory it was used as a bit of filler for a sports programme like Sports World or something.

[Cyril]

The 8 players in the first Pot Black, in 1969 were, John Pulman, Fred Davis, Rex Williams, Kingsley Kennerley, Jackie Rea, Ray Reardon, Gary Owen and John Spencer.

[spike]

Tone you could always get in touch with Chris Turner at snookerarchive.co.uk as i am sure he will be able to help with the information you require

[millwall32]

The 8 players in the first Pot Black, in 1969 were, John Pulman, Fred Davis, Rex Williams, Kingsley Kennerley, Jackie Rea, Ray Reardon, Gary Owen and John Spencer.

Who is Kingsley Kennerly?
Great name....