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  • #16
    Originally Posted by hegeland View Post
    Doesn't matter how the heck your joint is shaped as long as it's not loose!
    Yes but as we've now established the noise the joint makes is very important
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    • #17
      Oh yes I estimate the right sound alone is worth an extra 100 pounds! Remember this advice, a really really expensive cue does NOT go "phut", but "phuff"!

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      • #18
        Originally Posted by RGCirencester View Post
        LOL i can't wait now! Biut i usually lose... i shal;l be gracious in defeat and rub my friends nose in it that his cue doesn't go "phut"!!!!!!
        exactly RG ... my thoughts exactly ... I wish you the very best with your new cue from www.WelshPoolTrading.co.uk ...

        they are (imo) certainly the best value for money if you want to take the step up from a "factory" cue to a UK made handmade cue without spending too much money ...

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        • #19
          actually a really really expensive cue goes "phut", just really loudly You underestimate the importance this "phut" sound is to me
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          • #20
            Originally Posted by DandyA View Post
            exactly RG ... my thoughts exactly ... I wish you the very best with your new cue from www.WelshPoolTrading.co.uk ...

            that are (imo) certainly the best value for money if you want to take the step up from a "factory" cue to a UK made handmade cue ...
            Are you being paid to advertise or something???
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            • #21
              Originally Posted by hegeland View Post
              Oh yes I estimate the right sound alone is worth an extra 100 pounds! Remember this advice, a really really expensive cue does NOT go "phut", but "phuff"!
              hegeland ... with respect, you do not pay an extra 100 pounds for the "phut" of a UK handmade cue from Bitter at www.WelshPoolTrading.co.uk ... the whole cue is barely over £100 pounds in the first place ...

              phenomenal value for money if you ask me ... as RG said, and me too, me and him will be the first to say "well done" and shake you by the hand when you win with whatever cue you play with ...

              but can't we enjoy playing with our cue and enjoying the little "phut" noise as we take it apart when we win?

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              • #22
                One day all the top cuemakers are going to get an email asking them to record the sound thier joints make... Man are they going to be confused

                Seriously DandyA are you being paid? I think we know the web address by now1! And my whole cue was actually 160 as i ordered a custom design with 4 Tulip splices and a Tulip mini butt. Doesn't the mini butt come with the same joint? I can imagine it now, you play a spectacular shot stretching with the mini butt on, and to reward yourself you get to hear the little "phut" as you prepare for your next shot
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                • #23
                  Originally Posted by RGCirencester View Post
                  One day all the top cuemakers are going to get an email asking them to record the sound thier joints make... Man are they going to be confused

                  Seriously DandyA are you being paid? I think we know the web address by now1! And my whole cue was actually 160 as i ordered a custom design with 4 Tulip splices and a Tulip mini butt. Doesn't the mini butt come with the same joint? I can imagine it now, you play a spectacular shot stretching with the mini butt on, and to reward yourself you get to hear the little "phut" as you prepare for your next shot
                  unfortunately not RG ... although if Bitter reads this I am open to offers - the URL of Bitter's great site is www.WelshPoolTrading.co.uk in case anyone missed it ...

                  I bought my Welsh Dragon at the beggining of October so you'd need to check with him whether things have changed ... but on my cue, the mini-butt fits both the butt joint or the shaft joint ... so it extends the cue for snooker and also shortens the cue on the hampered UK 8-ball table at my local pub (this seriously ****es off players with JP cues) ...

                  I was going to buy the long extension but actually Bitter recommended his telescopic mini-butt ... goes from around 6" to 12" ... at 6' 1" that means I can reach all shots except say 1' from the end on a snooker table ... only needed longer twice since then and choose to double (ie kick rather than bank the shot in American terms) rather than resort to the "fishing tackle" ...

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                  • #24
                    The standard cues i believe are 125 without extensions. I would have got the telescopic mini butt but i wanted a matching tulipwood one purely from an aesthetic perspective. I actually would like the short version of the extensions that you can get, the standard long extension is i believe 23-37" or something similar however you can get shorter versions at about 11-15". I don't believe he does these though. I find the standard long ones too unwieldy. If you watch the pros on TV very rarely do they have to extend the long extensions when they use them.
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                    • #25
                      DandyA and RGCirencester - firstly, you really should get out more


                      secondly, my new joins should excite you no end. the new and improved 'phut' is to die for...
                      The Cuefather.

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                      • #26
                        I think we need a new thread starting here-Joint phut volume? perhaps

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                        • #27
                          A couple days ago I was playing this fellow, whose gave out a loud "phut" sound along with a not so pleasant smell as he bent over the table to take a shot. I happend to be picking up my chalk not too far right behind him.

                          I would not recommend the "phut."
                          www.AuroraCues.com

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                          • #28
                            Originally Posted by MikeWooldridge View Post
                            DandyA and RGCirencester - firstly, you really should get out more


                            secondly, my new joins should excite you no end. the new and improved 'phut' is to die for...
                            Mike, how much for a 3" cue? I don't want a usuable one, just take any old piece of wood with a joint in the middle. I'll sit in lectures listening to the "phut", dream come true..
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                            • #29
                              Originally Posted by RGCirencester View Post
                              Mike, how much for a 3" cue? I don't want a usuable one, just take any old piece of wood with a joint in the middle. I'll sit in lectures listening to the "phut", dream come true..

                              as a custom cue, price will start from £450.

                              plus £50 for amplified 'phut'
                              The Cuefather.

                              info@handmadecues.com

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                              • #30
                                That works out at 150 pounds an inch!!! I think i'll look for a quote elsewhere The 50 pound surcharge is perfectly reasonable though. Are you supposed to oil airlock joints or anything? And if i do will it get rid of the "phut"?
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