is it a foul

[noel]

I figured now that you have the 'Ronnie' grip mastered

L0L... Lighten up mate, I have never claimed "mastery" of anything.
Having only returned to snooker during the past year or so, after decades of not playing,
I sure as hell do listen to those who have something beneficial to offer, feel grateful for help given to me,
and try what they suggest [ by a number of the players you mentioned and a few you didn't, including, yes, even Lee Brett ] in person,
in the media and from all the great and generous contributors here at TSF, who share our enthusiasm Terry.

I try really hard to be as good as I can be and enjoy it while I do.
The last thing I want to do is intimidate anyone.

Peace.


=o)

Noel

[Terry Davidson]

Hey Noel...I was only joking but I took your 'Fawesome' to mean you saw some benefits to the RO'S grip and it helped out.

Also, as you seem to be a devoted snooker player I thought you might want to test your skills in a match environment and hopefully qualify for the Canadians.

I believe Lee Brett uses the RO'S grip or at least grips with the back of his hand and 'drives' through the cueball with an early drop of his elbow. I also heard he has gone to the States to coach, but don't know if it's permanent or not.

Terry

[northenpaulsavage]

are you stupid or something Karl, of course it's a foul.

[noel]

Hey Noel...I was only joking but I took your 'Fawesome' to mean you saw some benefits to the RO'S grip and it helped out.

Mick's advice... holding the clue loosely resting on my "social finger" only, prevented me from using wrist flick
to power and steer my shots and helped me drop my elbow and flow through the ball better. So ya, it worked.
I had a century doing the line-up tonight so I'm happy with that, but taking that to a match is a whole different
ballgame as, under pressure, I tend to revert back to my "tried and untrue" form. Not good.

Also, as you seem to be a devoted snooker player I thought you might want to test your skills in a match environment and hopefully qualify for the Canadians.

Man, I would love one day to do just that Terry!
Hopefully soon I'll feel more confident with my form and being so reliable I'll be able to kick your ass [ L0L ].

I believe Lee Brett uses the RO'S grip or at least grips with the back of his hand and 'drives' through the cueball with an early drop of his elbow. I also heard he has gone to the States to coach, but don't know if it's permanent or not.

Ya he does. We both should be so gifted to hit a cueball like Lee does.
I don't know about his US trip but I wish him well. He's a "character" who seems to have annoyed the status quo here in Canada...
not a bad thing to do all things considered. I like him.

OH FYA! It IS a foul!
[ back on-topic ]



=o)

Noel

[poolqjunkie]

Noel, may be you can take that practice partner of yours, Cliff, to go down and register for the tournament--I think a few people there might recognize him.

Have not seen Lee's posts for a loing time, is that what he is doing now? Coaching in the US? Where about is he?

[Terry Davidson]

Noel:

Just so you know, you are doing a lot better than most of our A-players if you can run a century with the line-up. A lot of them have mentioned to me they are struggling to get to that point.

Who is Mick? Do I know him?

As a matter of fact, and although I don't teach it to my students unless they need it, I also use my second finger as my primary grip even though it's not 'textbook' and I also find it helps me, especially at the start of my first match, to hold the cue nice and loose and get through the cueball better. I've also noticed my long potting is more consistent.

I hate to disappoint you, but 'kicking my ass' might not be that great of a challenge in a match as sometimes I play absolutely horrible in my first match. I'm hoping I have that mastered now, but my nerves are always bad the first couple of frames I think due to my previous lack of faith in my technique. I guess I'll see this Saturday for sure.

Too bad you don't feel you're ready yet for match play although I think it's one of the best forms of getting your game improved and besides, it only costs $30 and you're guaranteed a minimum of 4 frames plus if you get a bye you start with 50 points for the day.

poolqjunkie:

I'm not sure Lee has even gone to the States as I've only heard second hand, although I do know one of his mates, Alan Trigg is coaching in Florida so perhaps he went there to help Alan.

Terry

[Terry Davidson]

poolqjunkie:

Hmmm...Cliff Wilson has passed away so the only other Cliff I know is Mr. Thorburn and I heard he sometimes comes into Shooters, Annex or Silver Tip for a practice frame or two. I haven't talked to Cliff in awhile, in fact ever since we were in Montreal in March for the Alain Robidoux Invitational and both our cars were broken into. I just rescued my cues and Cliff's set of match balls that were stolen at that time.

Terry

[DawRef]

yes but that meens a player can atempt to hit the pack for 3 hours and because hes blind he misses 1000 and the shot cant be called a foul or a miss because the frame hasent started yet

i think it wasent confusing was it.

Wrong. As Bongo says, as soon as the cue-ball is placed on the table and hit with the TIP of the cue, the frame has started. So each time he hits the cue-ball and misses the reds, its a foul.

[poolqjunkie]

poolqjunkie:

I haven't talked to Cliff in awhile, in fact ever since we were in Montreal in March for the Alain Robidoux Invitational and both our cars were broken into. I just rescued my cues and Cliff's set of match balls that were stolen at that time.

Terry

That sounds awkful!

At least you were able to recover the lost items, lots of people cannot.

[poolqjunkie]

Wrong. As Bongo says, as soon as the cue-ball is placed on the table and hit with the TIP of the cue, the frame has started. So each time he hits the cue-ball and misses the reds, its a foul.

In snooker, after my opponent misses the pack, and fouls, I can shot from where the cue ball stops, is that right? If I am snookered on all the reds, say behind the brown, I can also nominate a free ball, right?

If he attempts to pick up the cue ball and tries to shot from the D again, does he incure another 4 points as another foul has been committed?

[noel]

poolqjunkie:

I haven't talked to Cliff in awhile

Cliff is fine.
Was planning on going to the finals of the Canadians with him, but I had to go to Vancouver the day before.
At least I hope he's fine... Cliff is in the throes of moving... so???

I'll give him a call.


Cheers.


=o)

Noel

[DawRef]

In snooker, after my opponent misses the pack, and fouls, I can shot from where the cue ball stops, is that right? If I am snookered on all the reds, say behind the brown, I can also nominate a free ball, right?

If he attempts to pick up the cue ball and tries to shot from the D again, does he incure another 4 points as another foul has been committed?

Yes. If your opponent misses all the reds, then it is a foul, and the referee should call 'foul and a miss'. You then have the 3 usual options after this call (see earlier post by me in this thread).

If the cue-ball ends up behind a colour so that you cannot see ANY of the reds, then yes, it is a free ball, and it is therefore possible to get a 155 break - free ball plus black, then the 15 reds with blacks followed by the six colours. (There are numerous threads on this forum on whether this is considered a maximum. I do not intend to start another).

Once the referee has called foul, your opponent has finished his turn and he is no longer the striker. If he was then to pick up the cue-ball and place it in the 'D', it would come under the rule of 'ball moved other than by the striker'. In this case, the referee would replace the cue-ball back in its original position, before it was picked up (and probably warn the player for unentlemanly conduct), and the next player plays from there.

[bkpaul]

It is a foul yes but to clear up an issue.

Say a player comes to the table and say drops his cue and the tip strikes the white and the wite travels say down the table and misses the pack its not a foul.... (only applicable to the break off shot of cause!)

Just thought I would throw that one in for good measure

[noel]

Say a player comes to the table and say drops his cue and the tip strikes the white and the wite travels say down the table and misses the pack

That would be s0 foul you could ask the ref to replace your opponent with someone who wasn't intoxicated.



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Noel

[KeithinFrance]

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