Are the world rules wrong?.

[bkpaul]

I agree with Bongo primarily on this one albeit Statman does of cause have a very valid argument.

Snooker to a degree is "the referee's opinion" which to my mind it should not be but of cause that cavat has to be there as rules can't obviously cover everything, unless of course you have a rule book the size of War and Peace.

Many of the rules however were conceived if not written a long time ago and as such maybe they do need reviewing to some extent. The vast majority are clear but there are a few which cause significant debate.... the biggest of which is of cause the miss rule which I could write a book on but won't (I hear you all say thank god fo that! )

There are also weird quirks of the game such as why do you get 2 points for potting 2 reds but you don't get 4 pts for potting a free ball (as a yellow) and yellow... I know why in the rules and the logic behind it but it is still very confusing to many players.

Anyway I guess I better run along and think up some more debates as you lot are fun

[DawRef]

There are also weird quirks of the game such as why do you get 2 points for potting 2 reds but you don't get 4 pts for potting a free ball (as a yellow) and yellow...

This has also been covered numerous times. My answer is that at the start of a frame of snooker, there are 15 reds and one each of yellow, green, brown, blue, pink and black balls, and a white cue-ball. Therefore, logic dictates that although it is possible to pot two (or more) red balls in one stroke (there are 15 of them), you cannot pot 2 yellow balls as there is only one.

[bkpaul]

Cheers DawRef almost exactly what I wrote on another thread hence why I said I alread knew the answer, just pointing out a quirk rather than asking for the reason....

I do think your answer was slightly more concise than mine though, but I do waffle so that's no surprise

[The Statman]

This has also been covered numerous times. My answer is that at the start of a frame of snooker, there are 15 reds and one each of yellow, green, brown, blue, pink and black balls, and a white cue-ball. Therefore, logic dictates that although it is possible to pot two (or more) red balls in one stroke (there are 15 of them), you cannot pot 2 yellow balls as there is only one.

Cheers DawRef almost exactly what I wrote on another thread hence why I said I alread knew the answer, just pointing out a quirk rather than asking for the reason....

I do think your answer was slightly more concise than mine though, but I do waffle so that's no surprise

Yes this is often quoted as the "logic" by which the free ball and ball on (being a colour) only scores once even if both are potted.

But to me, there is a far more fundamental principle in snooker which this Rule goes against.

That is the principle that if you legally pot a ball, you should score for it! Name me another situation where you can send a ball into a pocket, during a shot which is in no way a foul, where you don't score for your effort!

[bkpaul]

Good point as akways Statman, I agree it really should score....

Tell you what we'll nip over to World Snooker and ask them if we can rewrite the rules for them shall we