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    lots of differant answers about this and was wanting to get to the bottom of it.
    can anyone tell me if playing with side affects the object ball and if so how mutch and what can you do to compensate.
    myself do not think it does but it may depend how mutch you use.

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    yes, playing with side can. depending on how hard u hit, how much side u put.

    if u hit really soft for example, u might cue straight at first, but the object ball will slowly run off to one side. if u hit fast, the object ball deflects a little when you cue through it. for example, if u hit left side of the ball, it will jump a slight bit to the right. these techniques can be helpful wen youre just snookered really close to the edge of a ball, u can use a bit of side to swerve around the ball thats snookering you.

    also, it can hav different effects on the ball it hits. creating spin in the ball opposite to the white ball.

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    • #3
      It depends what type of side you are talking about - check side or left/right side?
      Dark side of the moon

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      • #4
        Originally Posted by snookerfan91 View Post
        It depends what type of side you are talking about - check side or left/right side?
        What on earth are you talking about? There is no difference between check side and "left/right hand side"?
        Check side and running side are just the terms given to left / right and the reaction it will take off the cushion for a given shot. Speeding the cueball up is running side and "checking it" is check side.
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        • #5
          Originally Posted by RGCirencester View Post
          What on earth are you talking about? There is no difference between check side and "left/right hand side"?
          Check side and running side are just the terms given to left / right and the reaction it will take off the cushion for a given shot. Speeding the cueball up is running side and "checking it" is check side.
          I'm sure playing the white ball to come of the cushion and slowly go of on a different angle and playing checkside is two different things???
          Dark side of the moon

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by snookerfan91 View Post
            I'm sure playing the white ball to come of the cushion and slowly go of on a different angle and playing checkside is two different things???
            Well, left-hand and right-hand side are self-explanatory, one you hit the cue-ball on the left and the other, on the right.

            Running and check side are different names for the two, depending on the situation.

            Imagine the white on the black spot. Play the white to the yellow-side cushion, level with the pink spot. The natural angle is going to take the white approximately towards the green-side centre pocket.

            Playing this shot with right-hand side will send the cue-ball further towards baulk – this is running side because it makes the white run on further (and faster) than the natural angle. Playing with left-hand side is check side which will 'check' the white back towards the pink spot.

            Now, if we face the opposite direction and play the white to the green-side cushion, then it is the other way round because it is the left-hand side which takes the cue-ball further (running side) and the right-hand side which checks it back (check side).
            Last edited by The Statman; 26 January 2010, 01:19 PM. Reason: corrected formatting

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            • #7
              Well, left-hand and right-hand side are self-explanatory, one you hit the cue-ball on the left and the other, on the right.

              Running and check side are different names for the two, depending on the situation.

              Imagine the white on the black spot. Play the white to the yellow-side cushion, level with the pink spot. The natural angle is going to take the white approximately towards the green-side centre pocket.

              Playing this shot with right-hand side will send the cue-ball further towards baulk – this is running side because it makes the white run on further (and faster) than the natural angle. Playing with left-hand side is [/b]check side[/b] which will 'check' the white back towards the pink spot.

              Now, if we face the opposite direction and play the white to the green-side cushion, then it is the other way round because it is the left-hand side which takes the cue-ball further (running side) and the right-hand side which checks it back (check side).

              Exactly, well explained.

              To answer your original question: Very rarely. No player allows for transferred side to the object ball. It happens, very occasionally, but players are normally only ever concerned with the cue ball and the effects of side on it, not on the object ball.
              I often use large words I don't really understand in an attempt to appear more photosynthesis.

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by magicman View Post
                Exactly, well explained.

                To answer your original question: Very rarely. No player allows for transferred side to the object ball. It happens, very occasionally, but players are normally only ever concerned with the cue ball and the effects of side on it, not on the object ball.
                That's right. As you say it does happen – it probably does in every case but the effect is so minimal that it hardly ever affects the angle required, as long as you get the correct contact point on the object ball.

                With regards to running and check side, the way to think of it is that if you are sending the cue-ball towards the cushion in a clockwise direction around the table, running is right; if anticlockwise, running is left.

                I guess if you are sending the cue-ball directly onto the cushion at 90º, there is no such thing as running and check.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by The Statman View Post
                  Well, left-hand and right-hand side are self-explanatory, one you hit the cue-ball on the left and the other, on the right.

                  Running and check side are different names for the two, depending on the situation.

                  Imagine the white on the black spot. Play the white to the yellow-side cushion, level with the pink spot. The natural angle is going to take the white approximately towards the green-side centre pocket.

                  Playing this shot with right-hand side will send the cue-ball further towards baulk – this is running side because it makes the white run on further (and faster) than the natural angle. Playing with left-hand side is check side which will 'check' the white back towards the pink spot.

                  Now, if we face the opposite direction and play the white to the green-side cushion, then it is the other way round because it is the left-hand side which takes the cue-ball further (running side) and the right-hand side which checks it back (check side).
                  Thanks for clearing it up with me!
                  Dark side of the moon

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                  • #10
                    thanks

                    Originally Posted by magicman View Post
                    Exactly, well explained.

                    To answer your original question: Very rarely. No player allows for transferred side to the object ball. It happens, very occasionally, but players are normally only ever concerned with the cue ball and the effects of side on it, not on the object ball.
                    that was the answer i was after thanks for clearing it up forn me

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                    • #11
                      Sorry for re-raising an old topic, but I just came across the Snooker Pro Tips youtube videos and am unsure of the definition of checkside and running side. I understood it as checkside narrows the angle of deflection, while running side widens it, and depending on the shot either can be left or right. Is this correct?

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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by visionaire View Post
                        Sorry for re-raising an old topic, but I just came across the Snooker Pro Tips youtube videos and am unsure of the definition of checkside and running side. I understood it as checkside narrows the angle of deflection, while running side widens it, and depending on the shot either can be left or right. Is this correct?
                        Sounds about right to me.

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                        • #13
                          Originally Posted by visionaire View Post
                          Sorry for re-raising an old topic, but I just came across the Snooker Pro Tips youtube videos and am unsure of the definition of checkside and running side. I understood it as checkside narrows the angle of deflection, while running side widens it, and depending on the shot either can be left or right. Is this correct?
                          Yes that is right , You could put left hand side on a shot and it will be running side then move the cue ball a foot and the left hand side will be check side .

                          It all depends on the angles of the balls .

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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by visionaire View Post
                            Sorry for re-raising an old topic, but I just came across the Snooker Pro Tips youtube videos and am unsure of the definition of checkside and running side. I understood it as checkside narrows the angle of deflection, while running side widens it, and depending on the shot either can be left or right. Is this correct?
                            Yes.

                            Running side send the cue-ball further away from you (than the natural angle) on the rebound and check side makes it rebound more into the table.

                            As you say, it can be either way round depending on which direction you're playing. (Sending the cue-ball 'clockwise' round the table means running is right; 'anticlockwise' and running is left.)

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                            • #15
                              Another thing to look for when playing side is how your cue reacts and throws the white .

                              You could have a straight black on its spot and the white about a foot away and play it with right hand side . The logic is that the cue ball will push slightly to the left and will swing back to the right over a distance .

                              You could then play the same shot with another cue and the white may stay on line or swing to the right slightly .

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