Why did Ronnie O Sullivan deliberately lose his match in CHina open?

[prouknow]

After watching back the final frame again, you can tell missing the yellow to the center was debatable but the safety on the yellow was clearly an attempt to chip it over the right corner, and leave an easy shot for Tiang, but to ronnie's annoyance Tiang snookered himself on the pink haha..

To put a funny side on this matter i reckon Ron wore a watch so he could keep tracks on the time as a flight was at 1.30am from Beijing to Heathrow giving him 1 hour to do the press confrence after the match finished at approxiamtley 10.30, hence why he brought his case with him to make a speedy departure

[ore]

I think this thread wonders...
Whydid Ronnie O Sullivan deliberately lose his match in CHina open?

Since it's such a huge mystery, let's ask ferret to get a press statement from Ronnie!



Strickimicki's reasoning seems most plausible, otherwise. He turned up because he's supposed to; maybe less problematic to turn up than arrange how legally not to, or some Chinese sponsors obligations or whatever. Then he was playing in show-off style, for the crowd (anyways is it possible at all to lose to some wildcard, huh?). And oops got burned.

To sink in that black slowly was a part of in advance prepared show-off programme - just as he explained in the press conference, the table on which he practiced that slowest show-off shot was a little different. Well oops sh't happened. 147 was planned for the next frame.


noel, doing good to keep that it's my final post on this thread threat.

[ncyaa]

Illegal sport betting in China is huge and there is no doubt it has influenced sporting events in China. Even the chief of the Chinese FA was arrested for receiving bribes for match fixing.

I am not suggesting that it is the reason behind what happened, I'm only adding one more possibility to those already mentioned by others.

I believe that he didn't want to be there and wanted to get out asap. He was there because of the sporsorship deals (that's why he wore a watch, I guess). But no one forced him to sign those deals. My bottom line is that if he appears in a tournament, he should try his best to win.

[Matthew01]

After watching back the final frame again, you can tell missing the yellow to the center was debatable but the safety on the yellow was clearly an attempt to chip it over the right corner, and leave an easy shot for Tiang, but to ronnie's annoyance Tiang snookered himself on the pink haha..

To put a funny side on this matter i reckon Ron wore a watch so he could keep tracks on the time as a flight was at 1.30am from Beijing to Heathrow giving him 1 hour to do the press confrence after the match finished at approxiamtley 10.30, hence why he brought his case with him to make a speedy departure

This thing isn't as silly as it sounds, I've never seen Ronnie play with a huge watch on his wrist, you only see Hendry with an expensive kettle on. There's definitely something wrong here, this looks well crooked to me and had it happened in a UK tournament maybe there'd be some kind of inquest.

[samphire]

What would you do?

Here's a hypothetical question:

What would you do if you were contacted by Chinese mafia and told that, if you threw the match, you would be rewarded handsomely, say 100 grand, and that if you won the match your children would be raped and murdered.

What would you do?

I feel sorry for Ronnie. He was so obviously trying to lose the match, it was comical at times. But for Ronnie, it's nothing funny at all.

And don't for an instant think that the Chinese mafia don't do this kind of thing. The amount of money to be made out of betting fraud is huge. This is exactly the kind of thing Chinese mafia do.

[hotpot]

Here's a hypothetical question:

What would you do if you were contacted by Chinese mafia and told that, if you threw the match, you would be rewarded handsomely, say 100 grand, and that if you won the match your children would be raped and murdered.

What would you do?

I feel sorry for Ronnie. He was so obviously trying to lose the match, it was comical at times. But for Ronnie, it's nothing funny at all.

And don't for an instant think that the Chinese mafia don't do this kind of thing. The amount of money to be made out of betting fraud is huge. This is exactly the kind of thing Chinese mafia do.

Or it could well have been Mark William,s heavies who work on very much the same principles as the mafia , but are call The Tafia

[JasonOwen]

Not just the final shot, the whole frame has been a joke. How many of you would miss a yellow off its spot when you have the cueball in hand?

You know what, the Chinese audience were so angry and somebody cried out "Go home, Ronnie, you mum has made dinner for you".

Sometimes you just have to believe in what you see, not what you hear or what you read.

"Go home, Ronnie, you mum has made dinner for you". = CLASSIC LOL

[gazza147]

The Whole Match was a Joke!!

Watch it back..... I have Watched it back I dont know how many Times! and I dont even know a Amateur would miss so Many Balls Taking About the Great Talent of Ronnie.

Ronnie wasn't there to WIN.....Simply as I just hope it was Worth his While to lose!

[cue1]

This thing isn't as silly as it sounds, I've never seen Ronnie play with a huge watch on his wrist.

Ronnie wore that huge watch on numerous occasions in China. It's an advertising/sponsorship contract... Can't remember the brand name though!

[Monique]

Ronnie wore that huge watch on numerous occasions in China. It's an advertising/sponsorship contract... Can't remember the brand name though!

It's Vasto.
And sometimes he plays with a watch and sometimes not ... as an example...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjmGTsmPeU4

this is Aberdeen and a match he won.

and, to put things clear once again, I never said Ronnie tried his best in this match or played the way a professional should play. He played carefree and reckless and would never have lost it had he been even 50% focused. He played the crowd, disreguarded safety and took exhibition shots when clearly it wasn't the right thing to do.
All I said is that I don't believe THAT particular shot, the slow black, was missed on purpose, because, very simply, it makes no sense.

As for the watch theory and all, thanks guys, you made me laugh!

BTW... did Hendo throw his match today? He played reckless and took hit and hope shots ... and lost a 4-2 lead... and was he wearing a watch???? I paid no attention silly me!




(only joking)

[prouknow]

I see Monique's Back in the thread haha

[JayDee]

It makes sense to me, the way you play it.

If he just went to play it normally and clipped the jaw, the black would of ended likely on a rail somewhere, leaving the frame still to play for.
Playing it slow and stupid to the jaw, makes certain the frame is a certainty for the opponent as the black remains on the pocket.

[liam147louise]

Ronnie....

I think Ronnie just wants to return to the u.k nice and early before the world championships and fully get himself prepared to lift the trophy in Sheffield!!! Maybe he didn't miss the black on purpose but subconsiously didn't really want to pot it and win. Anyway my money is on him in Sheffield!!

Liam.

[Luke Hooper]

I saw the press conference and it seems obvious to me that ronnie was thinking "WTF am I doing here and why won't they leave me alone I just want to go home"

I for one cannot believe he missed it.. I'm not the greatest of players myself and have only played for a year but there is no chance f me ever missing that, that's something I know I would pot 100 times out of 100 and I'm just a club player... Ronnie should of buried that...

[Monique]

It makes sense to me, the way you play it.

If he just went to play it normally and clipped the jaw, the black would of ended likely on a rail somewhere, leaving the frame still to play for.
Playing it slow and stupid to the jaw, makes certain the frame is a certainty for the opponent as the black remains on the pocket.

What makes no sense is this: suppose you want to lose and be out and back home , OK?... your long game's been dire for 2-3 seasons with success rates around 25% in most matches; you face a long brown... and yet you pot it, you then pot the blue, gain position on the pink, pot it, gain perfect position on the black and miss it deliberately in such a blatant way it will necessarily raise questions and maybe get you in trouble. Would you do that? Even the most stupid person wouldn't, it just makes no sense.
Again, I'm not challenging the fact that Ronnie didn't play as he should have to try and win the match; he didn't and he deserves to be criticised for that certainly. I'm just asking for a tad of common sense regarding that shot and its circumstances.