Awkward Scenario

[Johnnycash]

not ideally no as there is always the possibility that they may fluke the black after rolling the pink in. I would be more than happy to leave a shot like that on the pink after attempting to pot it though! Anyway that makes no difference. It doesnt afford good position on the black!

[The Statman]

Even if it was somehow a sound tactic to want the black on its spot rather than over the pocket, one thing the player could do is to play the pink safe and aim for the cue-ball to then go on to knock the black in. There would be nothing the Miss Rule could do about that.

If done in such a way that it could have been viewed as a careless cannon rather than deliberate, I doubt the referee would be able to warn for ungentlemanly conduct.

In fact, the tactical benefit of the shot is so unlikely to be an obvious one that any ungentlemanliness would perhaps be out of the question.

[cazmac1]

Bad call! I could set you up with at least 100 scenarios where you would find it difficult to get onto a black on it's spot when you were in a position to pot the pink!

Don't care if you could find a million shots, the correct shot to play is a saftey shot.

[cazmac1]

how about a straight pink along the baulk cushion?

Well i got you there staight away because I can pot that and get on the black. I done it before so know it can be made


By the way I haven’t made this shot, just thought a reply like this would be in keeping with the rest of this thread.

[tcollick]

Slightly off topic, but in the recent amateur ACBS Asian 6 red championship in Thailand, there were intentional fouls. This was due to the new 6 red rule that is "ball in hand" if the opponent fouls, and there not being a miss rule.
A situation in which this would occur is if the player who was leading substantially on the colours was put in a really tough snooker. They would intentionally not play the ball on and instead put a high value colour on the cushion. It was weird when I first saw it, but the bigwigs confirmed it was acceptable in 6 red and it actually happened quite a lot

[Johnnycash]

Don't care if you could find a million shots, the correct shot to play is a saftey shot.

I totally agree. But your comment about being able to get onto a black on its spot from any position where you have an opportunity to pot the pink was way off the mark!

[Krypton]

That's NOT what we all said.

We said: confronted with a black at the edge of a pocket, and with a pink (ANYWHERE on the table), it is

a) useless to foul the black by sinking it with the cueball off the pink (so no miss may be called)

b) the right shot to play is a safety

c) by leaving the pink in the corner where the pocket is blocked by the black is VERY EASY

d) therefor, read b) again.

of course there are situations where the pink and the cue ball (AFTER a shot you'll have to play first) won't offer an easy pot with positioning for the black. but you won't get the balls into that situation.

[Johnnycash]

Exactly, I can't think of two many situations that a half decent player given the opertunity to pot the pink could not play a positional shot to get on the black when its on it's spot.

So what does this say then?

[Krypton]

You consider yourself better than a "half decent player", but still, that's so... helluvakindairrelevant :P

[cazmac1]

You consider yourself better than a "half decent player", but still, that's so... helluvakindairrelevant :P

Am I missing something here, I don't understand the last two post at all