Does the repotted black get added to the break if potted first time?

[Terrence Chant]

Hi all,

Scenario: Player A leads (say 70-0), Player B replies with a break of 70 to force a respot.

Player B wins the toss, and cuts / doubles / flukes the black first shot. Does his break go to 77 or is it just seven and frame?

Under the rules, a break is defined as 'a number of pots in successive strokes made in any one turn during a frame'.

So literally, the break should be 77, as the frame is not ended until the repsot is completed. Unless the 'any one turn' is broken up by the respot??

I can recall Cliff Wilson cutting one in from the respot back in the day, and possibly the occasional long double but can't recall if the ref called 'seven and frame' or ' and frame'.

Thanks in anticipation,
TC

[Souwester]

No, the break ended with 70 and his turn ended. The respotted black is an entirely new turn which could be for either player, so if it is potted it's a new score of just 7.

[Souwester]

I suppose another ay of thinking about it is that once he has potted the first black to make the break of 70, he has no auotmatic right to play the next shot (on a respotted black) so his turn must end. Therefore, the break ends with the end of his turn.

[Terrence Chant]

Thanks, I thought that was the case but wasn't certain :-)