Oot of line splices.

[Wity]

Thanks Andrew, I was hoping there was a simple solution, filing a bit of the thread or something maybe even using a bit of plumbers tape around it. I'll just leave it I think. It really doesnt matter.

[Wity]

okay then the price I paid..

£39 +£9 p+p each.

Obviously at that price they were not made in the U.K. What gives their origin away is two things, the ebay seller shows photo's of the cue without the extension yet includes one merely saying a short butt is included. I said it was either stripey ebony or painted /stained wood. It's probably just one step up from broom handle quality, Ramin or simlar. What craftsman in the uk would make a handmade cue then add a broom handle extension?
Secondly the seller has the cue for sale on its two sites (at £125) besides ebay one of them shows a picture of an oriental gentleman making them in the workshop or should i say a ramshaclked old cowshed. Jeeze it makes the cowsheds in all creatures great and small look like palaces.

Thing is you can only go on pictures descriptions and reputations nothing beats handling and trying a product. The cue had been selling at auction for £50-£77 with either an ebony or a walnut butt. So it was no wonder they rejected my buy it now offer of £40 but in the last couple of weeks sellers have i'd say doubled the amount of cues they have put up for auction thinking the xmas time market could sustain it but it hasn't, prices have actually dropped. This selle for instance must have realised that and hasn't put up a "for aution" cue since i bought my second one.

Probably out the factory door for £20 -£25 tops with shipping I'd say i've got them for a decent price considering most companies would only let me buy them at £25 if i were to order a hundred at a time.

Quality wise i'd give them 8 out of 10 as they no doubt are not using top grade materials (not that this layman can tell visually) owners of English cues might rate them at a 7 perhaps without seeing the label, 5 if they do, as lets be honest we live in a brand name society.

I'm chuufed with them really kinda like playing footy wearing mitre's top boots when everyone else is wearing adidas.

hmmmm made me think now... shall I paint 3 white stripes on em aka a parris badge

[Wity]

Having had this cue about 4 months now(sold the other one) i'ts gained the first inevitable dink yesterday leaving a very small gash in the ebony. As half expected it's not black in colour, more like a greyish brown. There is further evidence it was painted too as on closer inspection I found a slight overspray of black on the brass joint.
I'd be well narked had I paid Geordie Pool the £125 full asking price on their site or the £99 buy it now price on Ebay but at £39 I'm still smiling. I wonder though how folks who go and buy the same cue from Craftsman Cues who now sell it for £110 will feel when they give it it's first such knock.

[ADR147]

lol knowledge is power

[Wity]

He's a nice bloke that Andrew is... tek's the **** then offer's to make me a good un at cost.

[Wity]

You know I love me Thuya, so mek me one like the Craftsman Dominator..
http://www.craftsmancues.com/acatalog/burr650.jpg

No rush, I'll have it for my 50th birthday on the glorious 12th.

Gives me time to save up the £50.



BTW Guess what I remembered to post today.

[Watford]

Talkin bout dinks I dinked the shaft of my Trevor White cue the first week I had it!
You know the stupid metal ridge thing were the wood meets the baize on a
pool table (snooker tables don't have these, I hated them already)!
Well the cue slipped out of my hand hit this ridge and has dented right were
I cue across my bridge hand. The dent was upsetting enough without me being able to bloody feel it every time I get down on a shot!

I could of cried I had my last cue for 6 years and didn't do this!
Trev has said he could take it out for me if it bothers me too much but I coping at the mo!

[ADR147]

why in gods name were you using a trevor white cue on a pub pool table !!! - easy enough to remove it normally.

[ADR147]

if you must play pool - and i don't really see why !! - i have listed a stonking pool cue on ebay!

[Wity]

I know why Watford was in the bar playing pool with it...

Theres no women in the snooker room, Watford had to go in the bar and play pool so he could ask the girls if they fancied his new perfect fitting 57"

Did you pull or did the dink put them off?

[Watford]

58" actually!
I play more pool than anything at moment I've ended up playing in two leagues and for the town team!
I only grab the occasional game of snooker these days.
What makes a cue a pool or snooker cue?
Surley you get a big range of tip sizes used for both.

[Wity]

I've gone the other way, I hardly play pool at all now though I used to virtually every night. It was playing in a league that killed my interest in pool though. There's a couple of trophies knocking around here somewhere 2nd in the league and finalist in the knock out from my last season about 5 years ago. It was a 7 a side one match each setup with two balls having to touch the back cush from the break and a foul giving two shots that carry rules that really killed it for me. No fun at all when you go away your opponent breaks and cleans up. (Happened to me twice in league matches) and come the final in the knockout our captain put me on last against a team that were all county players. 3-3 the score stood at when my turn arrived at 1:30 AM!having been there since 8 PM I was 1/2 ****ed in no state to take on the dog let alone a county player.

I'd much rather just go play snooker for 3 or 4 hours solid on a friendly basis with my son. Having said that though if the rules of pool locally have changed I 'd consider taking it up again. The rules 5 yrs ago leaned towards long matches up to 2 hours even with players well capable of clearing a table with two shots just playing little fudge shots and the like aiming for a decisive snooker. If they now stand at two balls having to come back into the players 1/2 of the table from a break, which i hear is now more common then i'd be happier to play.

What makes a cue a snooker or a pool cue?

Yank pool is played on tables somewhere sizewise in between a snooker table and an english pool table with bigger pockets and bigger balls. As a frame is often decided by a good break they usually use break cues which are stronger and heavyweight to spead the balls aound, then a lighter cue albeit with a simlar big 13mm tip to play with. (Irish linen wraps being commonplace apprently to help grip with their power breaks)

English pool players tend to prefer snooker cues as the balls are simlar in weight to snooker ones but as the english game is / was (see above) not about spreading them off the break and more about gentler fudge shots and getting spin+side they more often than not prefer small tips (8- 8.5 typically). With the white being smaller than the other balls on our tables (so you get the ball return) it welcomes the smaller tip.

Very few play snooker with a tip under 9mm because with long power shots theres more strain on the cue and more likelyhood of you miscueing. Thus in my reckoning a snooker cue with a tip between 9 and 9.3 mm is ideal to play either English game.

ADR i'm sure would agree, i'm basing tip size on what he's told me as much as what i knew before. I dont think he plays pool much and his tip I'd guess is 9.5mm

Edit.. (may as well complete the picture) Billiards players of old (ie my grandad who was billiards mad) prefered cues weighing 16-17 ounces aiding i suppose the lighter touch shot but they usually stuck with 10mm tips. Spin screw and side which is aided somewhat by the smaller tip was not a part of their game as they played with much heavier ivory balls. And Snooker players pre 70's or ?? whenever they became as light as they are now you'd find would vary little from the 10mm standard.

Funny but I reckon you've a good chance of being able to age an old cue merely by its weight and tip size.

[Watford]

Most of England still plays "World rules" which are the ones one mention first I think!
Although some people still play the old EPA rules from about 8 years ago.
The Scottish and the Welsh (some English too) play different rules again (because they didn’t like the world rules) that were called BAPTO but there seems some new rules around again called Blackball which are mostly BAPTO with a bit of World in!
How clear is that!

I can hold my own against county players but some of them when they get on a roll can knock in 8 ball after 8 ball after 8 ball!

I young mate of mine who has gone away to uni this year plays county now, he knocked three 8 balls in row against me last week and he’s still learning!
All you can do is laugh!

My new cue is 9.2mm I got that size of tip so I could use it for both!
I actually got a light cue to 16-16.5oz to try to help with my touch on the small tables but I’m still finding a bit light. I going to stick with it for a bit longer; if I can’t get used Trev is going to make it heavier for me!

[ADR147]

gosh an essay! - a pool cue has a tip between 8-9mm and a snooker cue between 9-10mm (as a rule) - i play both but mainly snooker - i have a different cue for pool and snooker and actually worse than that i have different cues in different clubs!! my snooker tip is 9.4mm and pool cue tip is 8.2mm.

american pool players use a different cue for breaking from playing so the wrap is not for that!


a cue pre about 1950 normally has an 11mm tip

ivory billiard balls stopped in 1924, and the cues before were basically the same as current ones although often a bit thicker in the butt 32-34mm whereas now 28-30mm is normal

[Wity]

How clear is that?
Before i had a pc I bought a playstation pool game merely to find out the various games the yanks play, spose the'll bring one out for uk pool games next.

Whats the wrap for then Andrew if not to aid grip / sweaty palms.