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Originally Posted by vmax4steve View PostWSC 1982 Alex Higgins v Doug Mountjoy second round match final frame score at 12-12.
Would the miss rule have spoiled this frame ?"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error"
- Linus Pauling
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Many thanks for posting this footage. This is the first time I have seen the deciding frame of this match. I have 'he People's Champion', though unfortunately it does not include this frame.."Statistics won't tell you much about me. I play for love, not records."
ALEX HIGGINS
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Originally Posted by spike View PostMany thanks for posting this footage. This is the first time I have seen the deciding frame of this match. I have 'he People's Champion', though unfortunately it does not include this frame..
G.Last edited by gmg; 14 April 2012, 01:09 PM.
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Originally Posted by gmg View PostHi Spike I'm surprised you haven't seen this before as Roger Lee has it in his collection. It's sometimes a matter of looking a bit deeper into his collection as well to secure the best footage. 'The year of the 147', for instance, contains some great footage of Alex from the 1983 Championship, such as his controversial second round encounter against Willie Thorne and his quarter-final against Big Bill.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzSbg...3&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6qRN...feature=relmfu
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Originally Posted by nrage View PostThanks for posting that. I'm not sure how the miss rule would have changed that frame at all...
I don't believe they would have, I believe that the rule as it stood then made positive players like Higgins take on the chances that they were given rather than just play it safe by having the balls replaced all the time.
Great frame all the same and as much tension in that as the decider in the semi final against White that year. Higgins certainly had the bottle for it and played brilliantly to win the title.
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Originally Posted by spike View PostMany thanks for posting this footage. This is the first time I have seen the deciding frame of this match. I have 'he People's Champion', though unfortunately it does not include this frame..
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Originally Posted by vmax4steve View PostTaken from 'The Year Of The Hurricane', which was a programme put together by the BBC and broadcast later in 1982. I recorded it on VHS at the time and later transfered it to dvd. It lasts about an hour and forty minutes and contains some really good stuff. David Vine presenting, Jack Karneham, John Spencer, Ted Lowe commentating, those were the days.
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Originally Posted by vmax4steve View PostMy mistake, I remembered the frame wrongly believing that Higgins took that brown as a free ball after laying a snooker. As an afterthought though, if that free ball situation would arise now after a snooker had been layed, would any player today take on that brown or would they simply ask for the cue ball to be replaced. With the miss rule now in place would they even have looked to see if was in fact a free ball ?
I don't believe they would have, I believe that the rule as it stood then made positive players like Higgins take on the chances that they were given rather than just play it safe by having the balls replaced all the time.
That said, if you lay a snooker and your opponent fails to escape I don't, generally, see why you shouldn't be able to put them back. I don't agree all failures to escape should be called "miss" as I think discretion has to be applied. If the escape was the easiest option (not a harder option which leaves less etc) and the player missed by very little (yet played with sufficient strength), and assuming the escape was difficult (for a pro, e.g. a 1/5 type of shot) then I believe no miss should be called.
I also think, this doesn't seem to be how the rule is applied today... but I could be wrong."Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error"
- Linus Pauling
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