Kicks and long pots

[nrage]

Not very interesting when it happens to you when you are playing though. I've lost count the number of times I have been struggling in a frame, get in after potting a few difficult ones only to then get a bloody kick on a dead easy slow run thru and see the hard work go to waste.
If I ever get into a position where I need one ball to make my first ton I will ask for the cue ball and object ball to be cleaned and the table brushed and ironed before playing the shot. Bet I still get a kick after all that.

If you can get a high-speed camera set up to watch that shot - it will be very enlightening.

[mooneyy]

You're right nrage... Always wanted to see a cue crack in half recorded by a high-speed camera... Must look awesome surely.

[xiaoceguancaitou]

a long pot most often is played with 'normal' speed.
RIGHT.

[mooneyy]

Don't quite understand your message.

If any kind of shot wasn't played with 'normal' speed most of times, that speed wouldn't be 'normal' anymore, would it?

[gem]

It's not static as I once saw Steve Davis demonstrate on tv trying to charge the cue ball with a polishing mop on an electric drill but when measured there was no electric charge present.
I believe that phenolic resin isn't as uniformly elastic as super crystalate and that there are a lot of dead spots contained within the material and when one of these dead spots is the contact point between the two balls there is a kick.
Some of these bad contacts are not obvious kicks, as in that neither of the balls concerned jump, so it is not obviously noticeable but an awful lot of the time the contacts are thicker than played and any spin applied to the cue ball seems to dissipate.

Of course I can't prove this but I regularly play with both types of balls in the same conditions and the supers are definately better and only kick when dirty where the phenolics kick at will.

I do the same. One set of SC's at one place and a set of TC's at another and the TC's kick around twice as often and usually on slowish plain ball shots.

[CoachGavin]

Long pots are often played at more pace than slow roll ins and touch shots around the black. This means there is a longer contact time between cue ball and object ball and more chance of a kick. Agree that jumping balls can cause kicks but some balls kick with no distance and no pace and I can't believe that the cue ball has the pace to cause the kick. Saw a kick in the recent event in china when maguire was about a foot from the red and he just gently struck the white and it hit the red so full it missed by miles and the red leapt up as if maguire had hammered it! Bizarre!