Need some help with a few rules

[barryhamish]

Hi can anybody clear a few scenarios ,

1 A player nominates the green after potting a red , hits the green then the white hits the black and the white goes in the pocket how many points does the opponent get ?

2 Both players are tied on points , only colours are left to pot , player pots the yellow and the white follows on into the pocket as well , does the yellow get re spotted or remain in the pocket ?

:-)

[Bigmeek]

1. Four points.
2. Yellow gets re-spotted.

[LucLex3119]

1) 4 point foul because the object ball (green) was hit. If the player missed the object ball and hit the black it would be 7 points.

2) yes the yellow get re-spotted.

[audiandy]

1. 4 points as green was nominated and hit first. Black does not come into it.
2.Yellow gets respotted. Happens on all colours throughout the game apart from on the final black.

[bluenose1940]

Hi can anybody clear a few scenarios ,

1 A player nominates the green after potting a red , hits the green then the white hits the black and the white goes in the pocket how many points does the opponent get ?

2 Both players are tied on points , only colours are left to pot , player pots the yellow and the white follows on into the pocket as well , does the yellow get re spotted or remain in the pocket ?



:-)

What is the outcome at 1 above if the green is hit but instead of the white then going in-off the black, it hits the black and pots it. Am I right in thinking that this would be a 7 point penalty?

[jrc750]

What is the outcome at 1 above if the green is hit but instead of the white then going in-off the black, it hits the black and pots it. Am I right in thinking that this would be a 7 point penalty?

Yes ...............

[perpetualboredom]

One from our match on Tuesday... is it a foul to 'accidentally' jump a ball, as long as you hit a ball on.

[culraven]

One from our match on Tuesday... is it a foul to 'accidentally' jump a ball, as long as you hit a ball on.

Yes
A jump shot is made when the cue-ball passes over any part of an object ball, whether touching it in the process or not, except:
(a) when the cue-ball first strikes one object ball and then jumps over another
ball;
(b) when the cue-ball jumps and strikes an object ball, but does not land on
the far side of that ball;
(c) when, after striking an object ball lawfully, the cue-ball jumps over that
ball after hitting a cushion or another ball.

[perpetualboredom]

I thought so but wasn't sure enough to argue the point. It was the final black and their man jumped it going for a screw back and hit it off 3 cushions. I asked the marker why he didn't call foul and game and he said it's only a foul if deliberate. The player then hinted that he didn't believe it actually went over it - which would be one hell of a miscue from around 10" away.

[Londonlad147]

If there is more than one infringement of the rules then it is the one with then highest penalty that matters. In the OP's scenario there are two infringement: causing the cue ball to enter the pocket, for which the penalty is the value of the ball on (minimum 4 points). So if the player had nominated the blue and then gone in off, the penalty would be 5.

If as in the follow-up scenario, the cue ball had gone on to hit and pocket the black, then it's a different foul: causing a ball not on to enter a pocket, the penalty for which is the value of the ball on or ball concerned, whichever is higher.

Regarding the OP's second scenario, coloured balls will always be re-spotted after a stroke during which a foul is committed.

[LucLex3119]

If there is more than one infringement of the rules then it is the one with then highest penalty that matters. In the OP's scenario there are two infringement: causing the cue ball to enter the pocket, for which the penalty is the value of the ball on (minimum 4 points). So if the player had nominated the blue and then gone in off, the penalty would be 5.

If as in the follow-up scenario, the cue ball had gone on to hit and pocket the black, then it's a different foul: causing a ball not on to enter a pocket, the penalty for which is the value of the ball on or ball concerned, whichever is higher.

Regarding the OP's second scenario, coloured balls will always be re-spotted after a stroke during which a foul is committed.

We covered it in previous posts, but in a simpler way. Ha

[Londonlad147]

We covered it in previous posts, but in a simpler way. Ha

But if you give the reasoning behind a simple statement, then hopefully the reader will be able to apply in different situations.

[culraven]

But if you give the reasoning behind a simple statement, then hopefully the reader will be able to apply in different situations.

Agreed, unfortunately your statement regarding the colour always being respotted following a foul may cause confusion, it is only when a colour is potted and a foul is committed, if it remains on the table it stays where it is unless playing the miss rule. I know you meant in the scenario provided but thought best to clarify.

[DeanH]

Need some help with a few rules

any and all colours are replaced to the table after a foul either respotted, or in the case of a F&M replaced where they where before the foul.

the only time when a colour is not replaced is when it is the Black and it is the only ball on the table.

This is because, as you all know, the first score or foul of the black-only scenario ends the frame.

[culraven]

any and all colours are replaced to the table after a foul either respotted, or in the case of a F&M replaced where they where before the foul.

the only time when a colour is not replaced is when it is the Black and it is the only ball on the table.

This is because, as you all know, the first score or foul of the black-only scenario ends the frame.

Unless points are then equal, then a respot?